3D Land before the credits is a 7/10. 

After the credits, it's an 11.

I might go for the 100% in this one then.  I opened all the levels in the GBA port of SMW, does that count as full completion? 

Just a credits run on Mario games is still exceptionally entertaining though; the twelve hours I spent with Galaxy 2 was magical.  Red Dead Redemption might be a slightly odd but not entirely out-there comparison: I rarely play open world games, and when I do, I pretend they're linear experiences and go from required task to required task.  Am I missing stuff that people enjoy, or even what fans might consider the 'true' experience?  Yes.  Am I still enjoying myself on the way to those credits?  Yes.

played some sunshine over the weekend:

Mario controlled like a dog. It might have been the controller but...im not that convinced it was. The whole fluff thing was also fiddly shite. If felt like Mario trying to crowd into that third person shooter with narrative market and felt a complete botch.

retroking1981 wrote:

I opened all the levels in the GBA port of SMW, does that count as full completion?

1) All 96 exits?

Yes.  I checked a guide along the way (actually, iirc you opened one of them up for me too), but that's the only Mario game I own that I can say is done and dusted.  I hear you did the last two worlds after I left on Saturday.

EvilRedEye wrote:

Seems a bit daft to focus on bare credits completion cos that really means nothing for Mario games. As long as it takes longer than 20 hours to 100% I'll be fairly happy although I imagine it'll take longer than that.

I've been playing a bit of the Challenge mode on NSMBU again, checked the Activity Log, 42 hours. Nowhere near finished with the Challenge mode. Can't really moan about the pound per hour ratio with that one, even once the fee for NSLU is added.

Just checked my activity log, took me 38h51m to 100% the main game, haven't done the challenge mode yet though.

Also I completed SMW on the VC last night and that only took 3h48m, granted I've done that before so didn't get massively stuck but its interesting nonetheless.

hylian_elf wrote:

Whoever said Sunshine is the Wind Waker of Mario games I sorta agree with: it's one of the most misunderstood entries in the series.

I said it and I meant what Igor said, obviously.

Equally obviously I haven't played it in about 10 years so fuck knows how well it stands up. But back in the day I loved it.

Looks like a mixed bag to me. Some of that looked dire.

I'm sure I will, on the whole, too. When I finally play it, blowing on the microphone is going to be a low point of the entire year, though.

Moot_Geeza wrote:

it doesn't appear to have even the faintest whiff of rush job.

I should have edited that straight away.  The Kart section clearly whiffs of rush job for example, but the overall package is becoming so fleshed out it doesn't feel at all like the stop-gap I thought it might be.  Bring on the couch multiplayer.

These trailers make the game look awesome - but thats when the action is zoomed in close and everything looks super colourful and pretty...

Actual gameplay is very much Mario Land 3d with bells and whistles, which many here will be fine with - looks to me they've done their very best to pad it out and chuck in extra bits.

I've just realised what the familiar feeling irksomeness I'm getting from it is. It's like they've crossed standard Mario with Mario Party.

It looks shit. They've reused elements from the 3DS version. Like pipes and stuff. Lazy.
"Workmanlike" in fact.

omg i can see things from 3d land like coins and goombas rushhackjob portsequel i'm calling it now whooooo