JRPC wrote:

fullspectrum wrote:

Now sensibly I should set up the 360, attach the £180 tournament stick I never used and play it on that. In reality, I'm going to buy Ultra on PS4 with a new stick. There's no going back-gen.

Ahhh I see, you're forcing my hand to buy that PS4 stick, I like your style. shit..except I just realised Ultra aint on PS4. Would you consider last genning it in this case? I'm a good teacher!

Yeah, totally up for that.

Having said that, Ultra's is headed our way also, so if you're buying a stick for 5 anyway....?

Oh shit good news. I could probably clean house of my Xbox and game collection to pay for it then. The only games I'd worry about selling are Dark Souls 1 and 2 but I have 1 on PS3 and 2's getting a paint job for PS4.

Short answer PS4 it is.

Brooks wrote:

My position is really that aerial juggleness is the direct cause of massive combowang, in an era when hitstun has been significantly tamed since SFII. And I fucking hate combowang - for the receiver, it means waiting for it to finish, for the performer it means an obscure kind of bemani rote learning is mandatory. Bollocks to that.

I don't know about the modern Tekkens, but Lei's juggles were highly situational in Dark Res. Juggling's a system like any other; it can be complex and engaging, or perfunctory and shite. Latter Tekkens have the most advanced wake-up system in FGs, and this marries to juggling (and walls), whether you care for it or not.

I'd argue that advanced systems are largely responsible for elevating predictive demands. I'll use another example that I'm familiar with...

In this first combo, the other player had 2-3 frames to escape my pick-ups (you only have to mash buttons for a tech), but because I assumed his inexperience, I just ploughed on for a show combo. Had he teched away with a sideroll, he'd have been able to punish me.

Alternatively, had I been able to condition him with d+2 pick-ups and then just dropped him, I'd have been able to catch his tech if he was pressing buttons. That's a pure high-risk, high-reward 50:50, and it means ending Lee's juggle well before its maximum available damage. Lili? Sure, she's as rote as they come. Lee, Lei, Nina... No.

That's not to say that I approve of juggles, because I'd also like to see them capped. DR's juggles were a bit too long, but that's still the closest game to my idea of an interesting system. That's a faster game, so the juggles end sooner, and, with its heavy focus on wide sidesteps (nerfed hence) and KBD punishment, they mostly represent damage conversions from good play.

Used to fuck me off when I was at Trocedero playing whateverhisnamewas when he was playing yun and would corner trap me and juggle. Just needed to catch me twice and he'd juggle me 4-5 times. I'd take my hands off the stick, dry my hands and wait for me to land. 

I don't see juggles as being any different from overly long combos other than they typically are about rinsing the same move over and over again. I don't mind them so much in MvC, they seem to work.

Juggles remind me of playing killerinstinct on the n64. I understand that the properties are different but they should just make it that you can't reset.

Curtis wrote:

Everyone buy GGXrd.

Done!

lol

That post is over a year old, I'd heard 2018 before too but surely it'll be sooner considering a first playable is due at CC.

Cherry_Pez wrote:

Thank goodness, CC bouts should be good. That this weekend?

Yep... If I was a betting man, I'd put some cheese on Snake Eyez. He's been going off whole year.

ChopperByrne wrote:

Is Pepeday in Capcom Cup? He handily beat Snake Eyez last time they played.

Beat him three times recently, actually. Last weekend, twice, and not too long ago in a first of 10... All close sets.
Pepeday isn't at the Capcom Cup, but yeah... A good Fuerte could possibly brush him...

Curtis wrote:

Everyone buy GGXrd.

Jap PSN 5000Yen was sold out when I was gonna buy, then when they came in stock, not immediate codes. I'll check again tonight.

Cherry_Pez wrote:

what is the point of losing your corner pressure for more stage?

This is something I hadn't considered at all. Personally, and this is just my opinion, the mechanics of IV are the pinnacle of the genre and I don't fancy the direction it might be going in with juggles 'n wall bouncing ect. Street Fighter's always been about real estate control. Still, early days 'n all that. Hopefully something more substantial will come along soon.

It comes out in the US on the 16th, does it even have an EU release yet?

The Japanese version is already full English voices, menus, text, everything.

Slayer's dubbed voice is the spitting image of Bond era Connery. It's uncanny!

adored wrote:

Cherry_Pez wrote:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/no-street-fighter-v-until-2018-capcom-producer/1100-6412556/ Wait what...

It's out the week before The Last Guardian and the week after Drive Club works properly.

Its out next week then! Aaww yeah!

Driving Range simulator for Golf enthusiasts.

I like the look of this footage. It is very SF4.5 hd remaster special ultra, but thats fine by me.