Crazy people. MGS V is one of the finest games ever made.

Could have done without any of the online stuff though.

This new thing looks like a big load of balls.

The game plays well but the structure and shortcomings are incredibly significant. The game wears you down by the end and you don't even get an ending for all that.

I guess the other consideration is whether your skill feels extended by the game or not.

After ~50 hours of Mario 3D World or most Kamiya games, you have pretty much nailed the basics but you are asked to string them together in ever more demanding challenges. 

In MGSV you have the same skills true, but your use of them is limited to which gameplay timers you were patient enough to harvest resources for. And then you get to use those skills in Neutralise the Armoured Unit 12 or Disarm the Claymore Mines 16.

Halo 2 was equally insulting with its narrative arc, but at least they didnt make you wait 12 hours upgrading a gun to fight Tartarus with, and then make you do it a second time to tick off a checklist which restricts your progress in Act 2.

That bit in the spoiler was genuinely great.

Vela wrote:

That bit in the spoiler was genuinely great.

Yup, felt I'd seen all I needed to after that.

g.man wrote:

I gave up with 5 shortly after the end of the first Chapter...

Spoiler:

I'd had my fun and destroyed the first Metal Gear thingy by that point, so that was enough for me. Had no intention of just doing the same missions over and over and over.

I think by that point you've basically played a whole game, so everything else is just a bonus.

Yes, it's repetitive if you try and do everything, but there's no need to do it so it's there for those that want it. I stopped at about 68%, having done all the main missions and maybe two thirds of the side missions, and by that time I'd had over 100 hours of enjoyment. Could hardly complain that there's too much content.

I'd agree that the game is too stingy with cash though, and I think that's down to it being tied to the online mode. Would've been happier with a pure offline game that allowed you to buy most of the stuff by the time you'd finished the main missions. But even then, I had a ridiculous number of toys to play with by the time I stopped playing.

Plus it's just miles ahead of any other open world game I've played in its gameplay.

Yeah, can't lie. I had fifty hours of fun with it, but there was no way in hell I was going to sink another fifty.

Tempus vids are gr8 I fap errytiem.

All should watch and subscribe.

Cheers davie - there's plenty I missed sadly but I was trying to keep it fairly focused on the main story, and ended up cutting a lot to keep it pacey - I do regret missing out Quiet and the virus stuff though. Always planned a follow up but other stuff got in the way.

Tempy wrote:

I never felt burnt out beacsuse I didn't like the handful of side-ops I did, so I just didn't do any more, when I saw titles of 'Kill Heavy Infantey 4' I just realised that was all it was. Not reason to put myself through that.

Gunning the main missions was more than enough to see me for over 50 hours of play time.

I went super lit student on the story too, for those of you that can deal with me droning on for 15 minutes. Feel free to skip the first minute - it's just ill advised bumf I was testing green screen with.

I think for me gunning was not an option because after playing peace walker I got burned by blazing through and having underlevelled pea shooters for the timed (and therefore impossible) late boss.

But even still the fact the game includes beat heavy guy 4 is kind of damning on its own.

just fucking make revengance 2: more revenge already

Konami talks about the plot for Metal Gear: Survive. The world points and laughs. So basically, after the events of Ground Zeroes, Mother Base gets pulled through a random wormhole and ends up in an alien environment where you have to team up with other survivors to fight hordes of zombies. m'kay g.man

Edit: As a premise for some random other game i have to say i'm intrigued!  The trailer isn't doing it for me though.

Tempy wrote:

@crayon gunning was figurative not literal, I used stealth for 90% of it

I didn't mean literally either. In PW I skipped side missions which meant the guns were shit (lack of exp) but that meant the boss was impossible to switch off (it was a timed nuke)

Phanto had similar mechanisms so I presumed the least resistance level path was not a good idea.

Billy wrote:

Konami talks about the plot for Metal Gear: Survive. The world points and laughs. So basically, after the events of Ground Zeroes, Mother Base gets pulled through a random wormhole and ends up in an alien environment where you have to team up with other survivors to fight hordes of zombies. m'kay g.man

Edit: As a premise for some random other game i have to say i'm intrigued!  The trailer isn't doing it for me though.

Lol konami just out kojima'd kojima ffs.

4 player co-op with that engine and mechanics has me interested, they didnt really need the metal gear tag or wormhole storyline though.
Not being full price means it has a chance though.