My iidx ASC cost me around £350. That was about 10 years ago and I still use it.

There was a pro rock band one which had strings. Also there was a weird pro rock band one where every position was a button.

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I can't work out what those guitars are.

Top one is a genuine Fender Stratocaster, that I used for Rocksmith.

Bottom one is the full size Fender Rock Band controller.

Surely

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Been back on the ol' 7 buttons like a bastard these last few weeks, amazed again at how a break of year or so sees you improve. Am all up the BMS these days due to not being arsed to torrent the AC iidx releases from sows.

Any road, will try to post a vid or two of progress, easy cleared some more 12s (with ease) and can actually do jackhammers now, mydays. I think this is a result of playing on laptop keyboard for a month before switching back to controller.

Still as fresh and challenging 12 years after I started playing as it was on day 1.

Also this guy, best bms player in the world

https://youtu.be/3VpZ9z8Vvig

Overjoy 5 (maybe 6?)

Bad+poor 5 (missed notes). Mydays.

tha fuck??

Would be easier to simpy play the instruments, all 73 of them

That song's used to end the 4 track overjoy ranking course, it's very famous across most rhythm games, appearing in several; on bms/lr2 specifically it's got a 4% clear rate on the internet ranking page, although I don't think it's the hardest song in the game (there's some very silly stuff out there).

Anyway, back to the dojo for me.

Took a photo and everything.

Nice, I do enjoy some inventiveness with videogame achievements.

I watched this vid last year, which is a WR progression video of ttf&f:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC7gdClA13o

Now, I'm a total snob and only play bms/iidx, but even so I enjoy a good speedrun/WR progression video, and seeing how ttf&f went, which when I cleared on expert back in the gh3 days saw me literally shouting an punching the air, was really cool, especially when these sick-heads start doing things like increasing the speed to 150% etc.

Obviously though there no random modifier on gh/rb, so, um, there's a degree of memorisation, but even then, to pull it off is staggering.

Sweet mother....................

Yes there are several random modifiers and the vast majority of players above an intermediate level use them (or use Random at least):

Random (shuffles note placement but maintains type)
S-Random (shuffles everything, can create really awkward stuff)
H-Random (same as S-random but prevents jackhammers)

I don't think I've played on non-random for years, maybe if I'm trying to clear something particularly difficult and I know the non-ran (i.e. default) chart I have a better shot at. Usually tho, I'll just grind the randoms.

First instinct is to think randomising the pattern makes things harder, but can be either - easier or harder, and it also avoids muscle-memory building up bad habits on stuff by playing the same pattern over and over.


Random (and maybe S-random) is legit and allowed in tournaments etc, it's very, very rare to see any top player videos that aren't using Random. It just makes the game so much more fun, imo - the chart is different, yet the same.

For example, if you know there's a part coming up that's very chord-heavy, it'll still be chord heavy, but the placement of those chords will be randomised. It doesn't change the type of chord either, so e.g. a 3-note chord will still be a 3-note chord, it just could be formed by any 3 notes.

H-random isn't legit allowed as it prevents jackhammers (i.e. notes placed in the same lane with only a single-note space between, so you have to press rapidly, like a jackhammer on a road - see measures 55 to 61 of this for an example - http://textage.cc/score/12/script_a.html?1AC00). Jackhamers are hard as shit and because S-ran doesn't maintain note type, it can cause, e.g. a scale of notes from key 1 to 7 to become all 7 notes on the same key, in a jackhammer.

You can hit different random options in that link above to see how it changes the chart (if selecting random, enter a different key order to 1234567).

I love random, if the game didn't have it I'm not sure I'd still be playing, or at least no where near as much as I do.

The community have terms like 'slap random' to describe a random that's so good it makes the chart a lot easier and you can slap away at the keys all happy like, and 'butterfly random' to describe a bad random where shit's split awkwardly. It's important to keep playing through bad randoms as this is what makes you better.

'Use random' is often one of the main pieces of advice to players trying to break through intermediate level stuff, as it exposes you to more and more patterns that you don't get 'naturally' through non-random play.

Lastly, on BMS you can choose to play the same random as a leaderboard entry submission, so you can play the same chart as others so there's no 'they had a better random than me' stuff.


Long post, apologies! I love to chat this stuff.

Honestly random is much more impressive to people who don't play; it's not difficult to grok/tell what or where the notes are, they can come down in whatever pattern they like. The difficulty when you're playing at your skill level isn't where the notes are, it's execution and timing. I could play a level 11/12 (insane level 0) and it's not the following of the pattern that's the hard part, it's hitting it.

I always tell people who ask that the hardest part of this game is the first few weeks where you don't know what finger correlates to which button; once you don't have think what to press, your brain just does it, that's when the real game begins, that's when it becomes about how dense a pattern can you parse.

SInce I now have a JP PS2 I started looking at the possibility of dipping my toe in IIDX.

Plenty of games but the controllers look pricey on eBay.

I used to have the PAL version of Beatmania with the 5 button controller - didn't get into it but I do like the rhythm genre - enjoyed Amplitude, Parappa (reason I got a PS1), Donkey Konga and Vib Ribbon.

That's the PS2 route knackered then.

I presumed the games would have been ubiquitous and cheap as chips.

Will have a look at the PC alternative. Cheers. Though last thing I need is another distraction.