A huge amount of those who played The Last Guardian disagree.

I'm not saying TLG is shit. Simply suggesting that its lasting impact isnt as significant as Ico/SOTC.
And that e3 show pretty much put the final nail in the coffin as far as xbone maintaining pace with ps4 this gen.

Vela's angle is that the announcements were banging nails in the coffin so to speak, but two of the nails were a sort of "tee-hee we had our fingers crossed!" thing (and the third went in wonky).  Shenmue's exclusivity or lack or would have a negligable impact on console sales on its own imo, but the public (or internet) perception of the Bone's future did take a bit of a hammering after that year's E3 thanks to the shots fired salvo.

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Vela's angle is that the announcements were banging nails in the coffin so to speak, but two of the nails were a sort of "tee-hee we had our fingers crossed!" thing (and the third went in wonky).  Shenmue's exclusivity or lack or would have a negligable impact on console sales on its own imo, but the public (or internet) perception of the Bone's future did take a bit of a hammering after that year's E3 thanks to the shots fired salvo.

Yeah thats kind of what I was getting at. XB hasnt had a great e3 for a while and back then (2015?) the gen was early and xbox had just been dealing with fallout from always online controversies and sony had this big event of demos of previously white elephant games. It was a good indicator of the trends/currents that were shaping then gen at that time; before xbox 1X and sea of thieves and proper BC and xbox access or whatever its called.

Honestly Id say that e3 shaped this gen a lot, and MS have recovered quite well from it.

Tl;dr

People remember 2015, but 2016 was the year Sony was on absolute fire.

Sony's not at E3 this year no?
Probably too busy preparing for next gen.
It is true though, so far Sony's first party output has been much stronger, more consistent and higher quality than MS. Things like Forza and Gears notwithstanding, Sony arguably has the stronger exclusives despite closing off this gen with lower tier hw.

Shenmue 1 and 2 were milestones in adventure gaming and set new standards in world building. The attention to detail and npc's, the weather system, the day/night cycle, the RPG mechanics; they were all big departures from jap rpg's and adventure games in general at the time. Every RPG and adventure game does it now but if I recall correctly Shenmue was the first to pull it off so convincingly. Yes, it cost Sega a fortune as they almost went bankrupt and yes the game is flawed but it was a remarkable achievement at the time of release. Suzuki was a true pioneer in that regard.

Whether the game clicks with you depends on how willing you are to become immersed in Ryo's world. At the time the gfx were immersive and groundbreaking. Now by today's modern  standards they are blocky and mediocre, distracting you from immersion.

An open world is only as interesting as the things you can do in it. Shenmue 1 is especially lacking in that dpartment as besides from collecting capsule toys and playing arcade games there's little left to do but walk around and admire the scenery. The pacing of the story is quite slow too and the godawful script and voice acting don't help either.

Still Shenmue 1+2 are games you need to have played at least once to see what all the hubbub was all about. Hopefully Suzuki has learned from past mistakes and Shenmue 3 will be a roaring success. Like so many Sega IP Shenmue has so much untapped potential. It  deserves a breakthrough and a bigger audience.

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Although frankly I’d buy 1&2 on Bone first and replay those. Not touched the since the DC. Not sure I can be arsed, though.

Free with gamepass!

I actually searched the GamePass app after reading this and was disappointed but now it's actually come through.

Has it been mentioned that this contains 'a fully playable arcade to send time in'?  No support from Sega means each cab is a coin-op created for this game (presumably by Suzuki).  HUGE.

Just started Shenmue1 on the pc.
Fuck me, what a remaster. Runs like a charm @1080p with just a 6gb install footprint. Just booted it up to see the intro sequence and before I knew it I was rummaging through drawers and cupboards and 2 hours had passed lol. The investigation sequences are weirdly voyeuristic and satisfying. No blinking map icons and markers here, just hardcore investigation and the manually tracking down of relevant people.

Sound quality is iffy but that was an issue in the original as well due to used audio compression techniques. No major bugs encountered yet. Going for a remaster instead of a remake was definitely the right choice. Makes you appreciate what a landmark title the original Shenmue was and how far we've come.

The japanese dub is fantastic for full immersion. You really do feel like you're playing the part of a character in a japanese martial arts soap opera murder mysterie.

Nice.

All over it. It's been updated in a way I would've asked for, so let's see if I enjoy my own wish.

Guys... I think G man is excited for this.

I can understand people becoming overcome with emotion.

This game has no right to exist, and it’s mind blowing that it does.

What a legend.