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Rev

b0r1s wrote:

As for reviews, I'm really not going to bother. I've made up my mind that this is going to be a part of my movie collection, why do I need some youtubers to tell me otherwise or that there is this problem and that problem. Who does that really benefit?

This all the way.

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Aaroncupboard wrote:

Had a massive grin on my face for the entire film. Says it all really. Not perfect, but it was the film it needed to be. Great stuff.

Only words I said to my friend all movie was when they were running for the ship, after they said the one to the right is garbage, was "millennium falcon".

Saw that one coming, still loved it.

It is a great flick. Just... Lots going on and a few questions. What happened to Luke, who the f is snoke, why is the republic shit, why is there a rebellion still, and the one that bugged me the most..

If the falcon can pull off an adama, and go lightspeed from inside a ship, why the fuck didn't it do it before, and why did the ships need to get to orbit to escape the snow planet in empire strikes back?

Matt_82

Did they explain why they only sent 3 of them to destroy the shields on Starkiller? Do they not have an SAS or even a couple of solid guys that might do better than a guy in his 70s?

superflyninja

hmmm the excitement at this movie has not died down with me yet.im itching to see it again. I saw Harrison ford on the Jonathan ross show the other night and I felt like battering Williams. Fuck off with your unfunny camp shit,leäve Mr ford alone. Shoe some respect han solo has just died.insensitive buffoon.

Matt_82

Tempy

superflyninja wrote:

I saw Harrison ford on the Jonathan ross show the other night and I felt like battering Williams. Fuck off with your unfunny camp shit,leäve Mr ford alone. Shoe some respect han solo has just died.insensitive buffoon.

You probably shouldn't read anything Ford has to say about returning to the role.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Ha, he does seem to be a stubborn guy. Not particularly romantic on his legacy or anything either. Good thing he's good at his job then.

Brooks

I'm beginning to wish I'd just skipped this and started at the next one.

FranticPea

Cool.

Rev

Brooks wrote:

I'm beginning to wish I'd just skipped this and started at the next one.

Care to actually expand on your reasonings as to why? Heard some very general vague stuff from you but nothing more than letting us all know you didn't like the film, but really skipping on the reasons why from what I read.
This is the spoiler thread, so feel free to crack on.
Intrigued to know why you feel this isn't any good.

pantyfire

It's no Citizen Kane.

Stopharage

@Rev - my 9 year old came out saying he didn't like it, totally because of Han's death; he was gutted. Then he said even if Ren turns out to be good in the future he still wouldn't like him because of what he'd done. My 6 year old loved it though. Tellingly the 9 year old wants to see it again.

Been avoiding so much pre-release coverage of this and so read through this month's Empire which has a feature about the film. Few things:-
- The Rebels base is the old air base at Greenham Common.
- Daisy Ridley was pretty much a barmaid before she got the role.
- Harrison Ford views the role as just a job and doesn't really get the whole enjoyment from the series.
- Simon Pegg is the trader who Rey sells to.
- They used 2 different lenses when shooting the Resistance and The First Order. A crisper, modern lens for TFO and a lighter lens for the Resistance.

Billy

There were pics of the rebel ships on location when those scenes were shot.

Rev

My son had no idea Han was going to die.
What was interesting was that he was expecting a twist so he was still alive. but that seems to be the norm in new films they don't kill off characters . For there to be some finality to it seemed to upset him more.
Chewie being in the pilots seat in the falcon got to me like. That was my ffs moment.

There seems to be a large amount of back story to cover. Looking forward to seeing what von sydow was up to.
The next film is going to be so Luke centric. Can't wait.

b0r1s

Out of interest Rev, could this be his first "real" encounter with death? As in finality? Mine was at around 9, with family, and took me time to process. If he loved Han from the originals I could see how to a 9 year old this would be difficult to cope with.

g.man

Hmmmm, I'm actually not convinced Luke is going to have a big role. Seems to be all about passing the baton to me, but I could just as easily be completely wrong.
I'm presuming that Von Sydow was keeping a watchful eye over Rey. I think Luke left her on Jakku and gave him the map of where he was going so that in the future she'd be able to find him. Again, I could be completely wrong, but I guess the only important thing is I'm looking forward to finding out.

FranticPea

Han is holding onto an aerial like Luke in ESB. He's fine, just a bit holey. Don't fret, the Falcon will pick him up soon enough.

monkey

Is it just me that was deflated by the attack on the Death Star rehash at the end? Rebel base being targeted, attack the weak spot, fly away as the whole thing blows up, bit of RoTJ thrown in with Poe attacking the insides. It robbed the whole thing of any tension.

Aaroncupboard

This may have been covered before, but that was Coruscant they destroyed right?!

I do like how the film focused less on the political side as it helped it have that fairytale/mythic legend type quality to the story.

Han's death was very effective, especially as Harrison Ford put in an excellent performance. It was wonderous seeing him running around with Chewie again.

But the best part of the film was the brilliance of the new characters. Rey was brilliant, Finn was endearing, BB-8 is a wonderful creation and Poe Dameron oozed charisma and class. They fitted in perfectly to the ongoing saga and if this film really is just passing the baton to this new cast, the next few films are in safe hands. Kylo Ren was also excellent.

Brooks

revelthedog wrote:

I'm beginning to wish I'd just skipped this and started at the next one.

Care to actually expand on your reasonings as to why? Heard some very general vague stuff from you but nothing more than letting us all know you didn't like the film, but really skipping on the reasons why from what I read. This is the spoiler thread, so feel free to crack on. Intrigued to know why you feel this isn't any good.

Typed what I needed to, but to reiterate - This was such a relentless, fanservicey Do-Over! I got mighty bored. Promise of new characters and narrative squandered. If everyone is only going to get to embark on fresher shit next round, I'd prefer to have not wasted my time this round.

b0r1s

I can only assume it was the same company that designed the Death Stars. They do seem to have the same weakness. My suggestion to TFO is to go back to the drawing board. Do some blue sky thinking. Possible put more guards on those bits that are the weak link in the chain, something like that :-D

monkey

Hans death is the perfect way of spinning the previous trilogy's events with a new twist. Death Star 3.0 was just poor though. Just a full do over. Got a bit Teen Wolf Too for my liking.

Brooks

One notion I did like is that the new bunch of fascists were more the Hitlerjugend than the fully blown Reich but that did make their slick presentation and potency a bit more odd.

hylian_elf

g.man wrote:

Hmmmm, I'm actually not convinced Luke is going to have a big role. Seems to be all about passing the baton to me, but I could just as easily be completely wrong. I'm presuming that Von Sydow was keeping a watchful eye over Rey. I think Luke left her on Jakku and gave him the map of where he was going so that in the future she'd be able to find him. Again, I could be completely wrong, but I guess the only important thing is I'm looking forward to finding out.

Re: Sydow, that was my thought. But doesn't the blurb at the start say an old friend of ten Resistance, ie Sydow, has found a clue to Luke's whereabouts? Although they could've said that to cover the plot or something.

g.man

Oh probably.

pantyfire

I, like G, think Luke is going to be a bit of a satellite character in the next one, I get the feeling the old guard are getting put to bed and the torch will be carried by the new characters.

Rev

b0r1s wrote:

Out of interest Rev, could this be his first "real" encounter with death? As in finality? Mine was at around 9, with family, and took me time to process. If he loved Han from the originals I could see how to a 9 year old this would be difficult to cope with.

He's experienced the passing of my father. I guess he's used to the inevitable plot twist which clearly isn't going to happen.

djchump

pantyfire wrote:

I, like G, think Luke is going to be a bit of a satellite character in the next one, I get the feeling the old guard are getting put to bed and the torch will be carried by the new characters.

Yeah, I figure he'll be a reluctant Yoda and teach Rey, but then there'll also be a bit of family tear-jerking with the Leia reunion and he'll probably do at least one lightsaber fight, maybe vs Snoke, maybe die.

g.man

If Rey is indeed Luke's daughter as people are speculating, then who is her mother?
If true, then perhaps it will turn out that she was murdered by The Nights of Ren when they fucked up Luke's Jedi academy, prompting Luke to hide Rey on Jakku then fuck off into exile?

mayber

g.man

bad_hair_day

Ren's Mom could have died in childbirth like Padme. This writing stuff is a piece of piss.

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