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    The problem with the way MPs are exposed now is that even those who would love to nosh down on junk chow wouldn't ever risk being caught eating it.

    We criticise them because they aren't human but would ridicule them if they appeared so.

    We really do deserve the crew we have. Anyone who speaks or behaves plainly is backed into a corner.

    And fuck the press and the twitterati while we are at it.
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  • i don't think plainness is ever criticised in and of itself. What is criticised is words which are said with no bearing or thought or consideration in what was said.

    And if people in power aren't held to the words they say in public then what can we trust them to do in our name?

  • Howard Hughes and a TV Dinner

    Hang on
  • i don't think plainness is ever criticised in and of itself.
    ...
    A large part of Farage's appeal seemed to be from photos of him gurning with a pint. You know, the millionaire ex-banker but "'e looks like a bloke you could 'ave a pint with down the pub, innit. 'E tells it like it is."
  • E looks like a geezer I could glass with a pint.
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  • Essentially every mammal has approximately one billion heartbeats in them. So if you notice that excersise increases heart rate you can dumbly extrapolate you will die sooner.

    Source.
  • Unlikely wrote:
    Essentially every mammal has approximately one billion heartbeats in them. So if you notice that excersise increases heart rate you can dumbly extrapolate you will die sooner.
    Source.

    But the fit have a slower rate when resting, and nobody exercises all the time.
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    NYTimes lists all of Trump's lies since taking office:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html
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    Unlikely wrote:
    Essentially every mammal has approximately one billion heartbeats in them. So if you notice that excersise increases heart rate you can dumbly extrapolate you will die sooner.
    Source.

    But the fit have a slower rate when resting, and nobody exercises all the time.

    I have an average resting heart rate of 45-50. I'm gonna live forever.
  • The heartbeat thing is nonsense. A brief look into it revealed it to be an average number of heartbeats over the lifespan, and in any case, humans sat way off the scale at 2.2 billion.
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    i don't think plainness is ever criticised in and of itself. What is criticised is words which are said with no bearing or thought or consideration in what was said. And if people in power aren't held to the words they say in public then what can we trust them to do in our name?

    Suppose. And those caught on pretending to support a football team etc deserve to to be crucified.
    Holding the wrong end of the stick since 2009.
  • I'd prefer them to make up even more ridiculous claims.

    "Yeah, I watched Evo, I was really pulling for Infiltration"
  • Metabolism not hartrate (although in mammals the 2 are correlated depending on size)
    Has something to do with buildup of free radicals over time causing aging evt.
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  • Yossarian wrote:
    NYTimes lists all of Trump's lies since taking office: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html
    Wow
    I started reading the list then i started scrolling and it wouldn't end so i gave up.
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  • Unlikely wrote:

    Essentially every mammal has approximately one billion heartbeats in them. So if you notice that excersise increases heart rate you can dumbly extrapolate you will die sooner.

    Source.

    It was a royal institution Christmas lecture I saw a while ago.
  • Mice hearts beat fast, elephant hearts beat slow, vampire hearts don't beat at all, QED.
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    Shit guys, I hope you're sitting down for this one, I'm not really sure how to sugarcoat it so I'll just have to come out and say it:

    It seems Kushner may not be the person to negotiate peace in the Middle East after all.

    I know, I know. I suggest avoiding heavy machinery for the rest of the day while your body processes the shock.

    http://m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Trump-may-exit-out-of-Peace-talks-after-tense-KushnerAbbas-meeting-497795
  • "Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated!"
    "Nobody knew that Middle East peace could be so complicated!"
    "I'm off to play golf!"
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  • Seems Trump is harassing the anchors of Morning Joe and their families. Apparently he's demanding an apology for negative coverage they've done on him (see link in previous post).
    How low can a president go? Pathethic doesn't even cover it.

    He's also doing weapons deals with Taiwan now. That's trice he's shit stirring in possible conflict zones, after Qatar and Palestine.
    He really needs to be impeached before shit gets out of hand.
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    Healthcare is looking very shaky, if that falls apart the mood in the GoP might start to turn against him. Mayber.
  • Full text. Why is he soooo bad at public speaking?



    Remarks by the President Signing an Executive Order on the National Space Council

    Roosevelt Room

    3:13 P.M. EDT

    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, very much. You don't mind if I do that? Get rid of it. (Laughter.)

    Thank you very much to our great Vice President and also for the fantastic job that Mike has been doing.

    The future of American space leadership -- we're going to lead again. It’s been a long time. It’s over 25 years, and we're opening up, and we are going to be leading again like we've never led before.

    We’re a nation of pioneers, and the next great American frontier is space. And we never completed -- we started, but we never completed. We stopped. But now we start again. And we have tremendous spirit, and we're going to have tremendous spirit from the private sector -- maybe in particular from the private sector.

    I’d like to extend a special welcome to an American hero who’ve I’ve known actually for a long time, Buzz Aldrin, who is with us today. (Applause.) Known him a long time. Thank you also to Astronauts Benjamin Drew and David Wolf and former NASA Flight Director Gene Kranz for being with us and for working with us on exactly what we're doing today. Thank you all very much. We appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. (Applause.)

    We're also joined by our great Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross, who spent the morning negotiating trade deals with South Korea. And as you know, that trade deal is coming due, and it actually came due a couple of weeks ago. And I think we're going to make a good deal, right?

    SECRETARY ROSS: We've made some progress.

    THE PRESIDENT: I think so. That's what the word is. And good for both countries.

    Also distinguished members of Congress are with us, and leaders of several of America’s great aerospace companies.

    Today, we’re taking a crucial step to secure America’s future in space by reviving the National Space Council after it was -- has been dormant almost 25 years if you can believe it.

    During the campaign, Vice President Pence promised that our administration -- because Mike is very much into space -- would revive the National Space Council, and with this executive order, we’re keeping that promise. Feel very strongly about it. I’ve felt strongly about it for a long time. I used to say before doing what I did -- I used to say, what happened? Why aren’t we moving forward?

    Today’s announcement sends a clear signal to the world that we are restoring America’s proud legacy of leadership in space.

    Our Vice President cares very deeply about space policy, and for good reason -- space exploration is not only essential to our character as a nation, but also our economy and our great nation’s security.

    Our travels beyond the Earth propel scientific discoveries that improve our lives in countless ways here, right here, at home: powering vast new industry, spurring incredible new technology, and providing the space security we need to protect the American people. And security is going to be a very big factor with respect to space and space exploration. At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?

    The Vice President will serve as the council’s chair. Several representatives of my administration will join him including the Secretaries of State, Defense, Commerce, Transportation, and Homeland Security; the Chairman of the great -- I’ll tell you, he’s doing a fantastic job, always working, always fighting, and winning -- winning big against ISIS, that I can tell you, seeing what’s happening there -- the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the National Security Advisor, NASA, and the Director of National Intelligence.

    The council will also draw the expertise of other White House offices as well as insights from scientists, innovators, and business leaders from across the country. Many business leaders that want to be a big part of this. I think the privatization of certain aspects is going to play a very crucial role, don’t you think? They are truly into it. This coordination will be accomplished through an advisory group that is being convened by today’s executive order, which I’ll be signing in a minute.

    The National Space Council will be a central hub guiding space policy within the administration. And I will draw on it for advice and information and recommendations for action. And the Vice President, myself, and a few others are going to pick some private people to be on the board. I will say that’s not easy because everybody wants to be on this board. People that you wouldn’t have believed loved what we’re doing so much they want to -- some of the most successful people in the world want to be on this board.

    The human soul yearns for discovery. By unlocking the mysteries of the universe, we unlock truths within ourselves. That’s true. Our journey into space will not only make us stronger and more prosperous, but will unite us behind grand ambitions and bring us all closer together. Wouldn’t that be nice? Can you believe that space is going to do that? I thought politics would do that. (Laughter.) Well, we’ll have to rely on space instead.

    Every launch into the skies is another step forward toward a future where our differences seem small against the vast expanse of our common humanity. Sometimes you have to view things from a distance in order to see the real truth. It is America’s destiny to be at the forefront of humanity’s eternal quest for knowledge and to be the leader amongst nations on our adventure into the great unknown. And I could say the great and very beautiful unknown. Nothing more beautiful.

    With the actions we are launching today, America will think big once again. Important words: Think big. We haven’t been thinking so big for a long time, but we’re thinking big again as a county. We will inspire millions of children to carry on this proud tradition of American space leadership -- and they’re excited -- and to never stop wondering, hoping, and dreaming about what lies beyond the stars.

    So, I just want to tell you that we are now going to sign an executive order, and this is going to launch a whole new chapter for our great country. And people are very excited about it and I can tell you, I’m very excited about it. Thank you all very much. (Applause.)

    (The order is signed.)

    COLONEL ALDRIN: Infinity and beyond. (Laughter.)

    THE PRESIDENT: This is infinity here. It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something -- but it could be infinity, right?

    Okay. (Applause.)

    END
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    It's the way he pauses and repeats some utterly benign to word phrase & acts like it's genuinely deep and insightful. "I know what 'progress' means, let me show these people."
  • He's very good at zingers and soundbites, snappy bits in TV interviews. Decades of being on TV seems to have given him an edge there over most of the politicians he ran against. It does rely on the occasion of course, there are times when a soundbite won't do.

    He's much worse than most politicians at making a proper speech. We're not used to seeing people so high up the political ladder who do it so badly, but it's a political and legal skill that most people don't posses. 

    There are claims that the repetition is a deliberate selling technique, some people will latch on to these phrases and ignore the meat of what he's saying, but crediting him as a master salesman seems like a stretch.
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    The way he tries to use the conformity tactic with everything he says is ridiculous.

    "Lots of people are saying" "everyone is excited"

    It's very transparent, I wonder if it's at all effective?
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    Given that he has blagged his way into the whitehouse I'd suggest that it is.


    What I can't get is the fact that he can't rise above the comments made on TV programmes about him. He keeps taking the bait.
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