Does chipolata sound English to you?! Bah humbug!acemuzzy wrote:Chipolatas are surely English despite sounding foreign. Aren't they?
Kow wrote:Leaving the EU is just a bone to right wing who think that the UK still has some kind of special status - it doesn't. Apart from possibly (although not necessarily) interfering with trade, the probable result is a reinforcing of the UK's position as US lapdog. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, depending on your view of political realism.
Kow wrote:There's also the point that pulling out of the EU could potentially collapse it for everyone else too.
I'm not a particularly big fan of the EU as a political entity but I think some democratic reform within the structure is preferable to its destruction. I'd be doubtful that leaving it could be beneficial at this point in the history of the world.
Essentially, an exit from the EU would leave us with all the disadvantages of still being a member, but none of the power to vote on changing them. Like Norway. And it would add a whole lot of new and exciting disadvantages on top.We’re about to be inundated with a lot of pointless noise. If the pre-whining is anything to go by, most of it will be wrong. Frankly (as you might have gathered), I’d like the whole thing to just go away. It’s a pointless debate detracting us from things that really matter (like reforming the EU for the modern age or tax avoiding global corporations).
In short, the idea of leaving the EU is somewhere between bat-shit crazy and economic suicide.
Perhaps the most depressing thing is that this referendum, and an entire country’s future, is at risk of being decided through ignorance. Ignorance led by mis-information and a false sense of identity that fails to grasp that this is 2016, not 1816. We’re being fed a diet of half-truths and outright lies based on short-termism when the real issues are not just complex but fundamental to our economic and geopolitical future.
Blue Swirl wrote:I don't care what symbol is in front of the number that means Monies, as long as the number of Monies I have in my bank account is the correct one. Call them Quatloos for all I fucking care.
djchump wrote:I'm voting Go because it's one step further along the path to a time when our glorious England can shake free of the shackles of Wales and Scotland by dynamiting the borders, building a giant dome, strapping rockets to the underside and blasting ourselves into orbit to assume our correct supreme position looking down on all.
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