Dark Soldier wrote:I estimate, in my prime, formative years, I probably had close to a hundred wanks whilst watching Neighbours. Flick, Izzy, Susan, Karl. All glorious memories.
Moot_Geeza wrote:LD watched The Bold & the Beautiful when he could've been watching Sunset Beach? Shame on him.
J-Pop is shit m8. K-Pop .TheDJR wrote:You're right, there's nothing wrong with J-Pop.
Tempy wrote:Not really seeing a lot of pleasures that I'd class as guilty, more people who have been fooled into thinking pop is inherently bad.
b0r1s wrote:I loved Alisha's Attic. When I say loved I really liked one song, indestructible.
Liveinadive wrote:I have developed a strong liking for 80s/90s/00s pop/rnb. Bobby Brown, Whitney, Janet Jackson, Boys II Men, George Michael, Destiny's Child, Soul II Soul, TLC, Eternal, R Kelly, Donnel Jones, Shola Ama, Ashanti, MC Hammer, New Kids on the Block, Usher etc. I have the musical taste of a middle aged black woman.
Mitch Clem wrote:So Amanda and I watched this movie, Begin Again. And, overall, I dug it. Might even make it into my top five of the year? Top ten at least. Probably. BUT ANYHOW, here’s the trick: MUSIC NERDERY. This is a movie by and for music nerds. Right? Okay, so now you’ve got your skeptic hat on (or, maybe your skeptic glasses… YOUR SKEPTICALS! QUICK, CALL RAND MCNALLY!) and so did I. And yet, though a tiny smidge cheesy and out of touch, the movie managed to OVERALL be a nice, solid movie about music.
EXCEPT!
And this is a big except.
EXCEPT there’s a scene where two of the characters are talking, and one sees the other’s iPod and asks to look at it and the iPod owner balks and won’t allow such a thing because their iPod is full of “GUILTY PLEASIRES”! (OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH) and NEVER MIND that I’ve already written about how “GUILTY PLEASURE” is a bullshit term that implies that there is an empirical value to music and that some music is just inarguably better than others GENERALLY using a yardstick of pretension and general worrying about not being seen as somehow “unhip” for liking something “unhip” even though art affecting you emotionally and making you feel feels is the most beautiful thing our stupid lives have to offer…
What was I talking about? Oh yeah, guilty pleasures. So, okay, fine, I think playing into the mindset of feeling guilty about what you like is juvenile and ultimately harmful, BUT WHATEVER, I still GET IT and I can still appreciate this scene in the movie. Let’s go, let’s check out these guilty pleasures…
The scene goes on to play basically a montage of Frank Sinatra classics. And, now, okay, I PERSONALLY fucking HATE Frank Sinatra. Don’t like the songs, don’t like the voice, don’t like the style, DEFINITELY don’t like the man behind all of the above. THAT SAID. I realize my hatred of the Chairman of the Spousal Abuse (or whatever) is mine, is personal preference, and so I get why some people might like him even if I don’t.
THAT SAID. Oh my god I can’t stop tangenting. Stop me, don’t let me tangent again, let me let this out. FRANK SINATRA IS NOT A GUILTY PLEASURE. SERIOUSLY ALMOST EVERYONE (well, everyone who’s white anyhow) LIKES FRANK SINATRA!
I get that you’re making this movie and you wanna have a sweet WITH-IT soundtrack with no skippable tracks and so, for your “guilty pleasure” in the score you opted for something old.
That’s not the fuck what guilty pleasure means, dude. And, you know, I can even empathize with this. Because here’s the rub: To admit a guilty pleasure is to accidentally admit you give a shit what people think about your taste in music. And so, as is often the case, you will “ADMIT” to something guilty by admitting to something that you know everyone else also likes but which isn’t the current flavor of the month as to seem vulnerable yet still relateable and not have to worry about anyone ever actually seeing you as – GASP – UNCOOL!!!
WELL GUESS WHAT MISTER MOVIE MAN? That’s fucking stupid. Don’t make a movie with a guilty pleasure exposure and cop out to something as goddamn safe as Frank stupid flippin Sinatra.
You know what’s a guilty pleasure? The Crash Test Dummies. Or Nina Gordon’s solo albums from after Veruca Salt broke up. Holy shit. Or, like… I mean, hell, it’s all so contextual. If you’re with your grandma, it’s Cannibal Corpse. If you’re with a bunch of punks it’s Ben Folds Five. If you’re with the Pitchfork writing staff it’s LITERALLY ANYTHING EVER.
Anyhow. What the hell was my point? Oh whatever. Just like whatever fucking music makes you feel good. If someone teases you about it, that’s all well and good, unless they seriously actually mean it, in which case they can go to hell. Every punk-as-fuck motherfucker secretly loves the Josie and the Pussycats soundtrack.
b0r1s wrote:@LarryDavid That is brilliant. Though I obviously would not have laughed if I had seen you back then.
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