Star Fox - Do a barrel roll!!
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  • retroking1981
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    So who's picking up Star Fox Zero tomorrow?

    Reviews have been predictably mixed due to the unique controls but its been a while since I've soared the skies in the Lylat system so I'm game, even if Assault/Command left me cold.

    Star Fox Zero: The Battle Begins, an animated short produced in collaboration with Shigeru Miyamoto, Production IG and WIT Studios.
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  • cockbeard
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    Do you think Google will bring back the barrel roll animation for that

    edit: It never went away
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
  • afgavinstan
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    Polygon, ever the edgy outfit, have refused to review it because they dislike the motion controls that much.

    Planks. Learning how to get over a games' failings and recording them and how you see them is the whole point of their job. A job that many, many others would love to have.

    It can be a good site at times, but that's just nonsense.
  • mistercrayon
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    The same guy was off step with bayonetta 2. I think the guy just likes being unusual.
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    Yeah strikes me as clickbait-like.
    In a few days time they will have a "Why we refused to review Starfox" article that is basically a review anyway.

    I just feel like they should have embraced the simply polygon stylings and ran with it. Then maybe not spent 3 years on a basic game and released it for 25-30 quid.
  • Tempy
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    As H once said, Arthur Gies is a pie.
  • mistercrayon
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    The other issue I had was that the premise, the controls were fundamentally broken. seemed to be completely out of kilter with a consensus that at least for the flying bits the controls work very well.
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    Yeah, I have my preference (fuck off motion controls, you're shit) but I doubt Nintendo would release a game with broken controls.
  • Yossarian
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    I just read it, it doesn't say they're broken, just overly complicated.
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    Ffs Yoss, you're not supposed to actually read it, just be outraged by it.
    Stop doing the internet wrong.
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    The Polygon review was entertaining. Told me everything I need to know to confirm the fact that I won't buy a game I was never considering buying in the first place.
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    Do you even have a WiiU
  • Yossarian
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    Nope, which is a large part of the reason I was never going to buy it.
  • Billy
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    That write up was bizarre and not particularly professional, more what i'd expect from a blog.

    The gameplay footage i've seen looks quite fun.
    Today is the shadow of tomorrow.
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    Wow, even in a slow moving forum like this nobody gives a fuck about starfox anymore.

    If the Gamesmaster (Michael Moore), were still alive, he'd surely sue/fap over the OP Fox art.
  • Billy
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    Patrick Moore?
    Today is the shadow of tomorrow.
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    Um, forum doesn't like the image I tried to post so just Yes, basically.
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    indigo wrote:
    Wow, even in a slow moving forum like this nobody gives a fuck about starfox anymore.

    I'm sure there'll be a select few of us who'll play it.

    I do find this forum odd in what takes off and what disappears thread wise sometimes. 


    Star Wars Battlefront is the biggest selling Star Wars game ever and came out at a time when the IP was hyped to the max yet apart from one bump last week the thread has kinda died. I was expecting that to be on the front page for a good while tbh.
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    If it was from google you usually have to click "view image" and then copy the image address.
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    indigo wrote:
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    Yes. RIP (surely?).
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    retroking1981 wrote:
    indigo wrote:
    Wow, even in a slow moving forum like this nobody gives a fuck about starfox anymore.
    I'm sure there'll be a select few of us who'll play it. I do find this forum odd in what takes off and what disappears thread wise sometimes.  Star Wars Battlefront is the biggest selling Star Wars game ever and came out at a time when the IP was hyped to the max yet apart from one bump last week the thread has kinda died. I was expecting that to be on the front page for a good while tbh.
    Problem was, the game turned out to be a lot of old shite.
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    Thought this was a reg thread- no caps, should've known...
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    g.man wrote:
    retroking1981 wrote:
    indigo wrote:
    Wow, even in a slow moving forum like this nobody gives a fuck about starfox anymore.
    I'm sure there'll be a select few of us who'll play it. I do find this forum odd in what takes off and what disappears thread wise sometimes.  Star Wars Battlefront is the biggest selling Star Wars game ever and came out at a time when the IP was hyped to the max yet apart from one bump last week the thread has kinda died. I was expecting that to be on the front page for a good while tbh.
    Problem was, the game turned out to be a lot of old shite.
    Updates have rather improved it, worth another go. I quite like it now.
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    retroking1981 wrote:
    I do find this forum odd in what takes off and what disappears thread wise sometimes.

    From a personal perspective I can safely say that I've never gotten the deal with Star Fox.

    I played it on SNES and N64 in my youth and remember people speaking really highly of it, but it's always passed me by. So while this evidently is a big name game being released...I just wonder if there are more people like me who never got the fuss.
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    afgavinstan wrote:
    Polygon, ever the edgy outfit, have refused to review it because they dislike the motion controls that much. Planks. Learning how to get over a games' failings and recording them and how you see them is the whole point of their job. A job that many, many others would love to have. It can be a good site at times, but that's just nonsense.

    I guess that's the same as me refusing to visit Polygon because they're a bunch of cunts.
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    Moot_Geeza wrote:
    I might've got somewhere close to super excited if they'd gone for traditional controls.  This has happened to me twice with rails shooters I've been looking forward to (three times if you count Panzer Dragoon Saga, but that worked out fine).  First Crimson Dragon went Kinect only (and next gen, the cheek - turns out that was shit anyway), now Starfox.  Not much chance of seeing another one for a while if this doesn't sell, which makes it more irritating.  Controls might be alright, playing retro's copy tonight and hoping it works, but they won't appeal as much as using a standard pad even if they're fine.


    Sin and Punishment was a lot better with motion controls, but the Wiimote felt like a natural extension of your arm. I always liken it to how shit light gun games are with a pad compared to a gun. Even I'm guilty of it just then but they're also not really motion controls, they're pointer controls.

    My concerns with this is aiming with the Gamepad won't feel as natural. Maybe we've gotta get in the mindset of the Gamepad being the control panel of a Awing.
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    This quote form Nintendolife has me nervous.

    Due to the GamePad aiming we don't advise slouching in a soft chair for this one. This is a game that puts a player's skills to the test, and the nature of the gameplay demands some respect for the activity.
    Star Fox controls

    The Wiimote allowed for traditional gaming slouching or laying down as you only have to move the thing mere micro inches to register.

    Fuck having to sit up like I'm at an office desk.
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    Star Fox on the snes was amazing 25 (?) years ago. Today, not so much.
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