Anyhoo, I also just watched The Final Cut on BluRay, which I probably haven't watched since it was released ten years ago (the receipt was in the box).
Thoroughly enjoyed it but was completely dumbfounded by the dialogue change (which I'd totally forgotten about) in the iconic exchange between Batty and Tyrell.
Instead of the original iconic line...


in The Final Cut it's replaced with " I want more life...father."
Christ, I nearly spat my coke all over the room! Ridley Scott really should get an almighty kick in the balls for that change.

My problem is I have seen different versions at different times and they are all gnarled up in my memory. I honestly can't remember when i saw the version with the narration. I first saw the film on VHS when it first appeared in that format - must have been when I was around 16-17. When I first saw it I thought it was pretty but I didn't see it much more than a decent private eye/ sci-fi film. It was during a huge film binge prompted by the novelty of VHS and film-on-demand.  It was only after watching it again a year or so later that I started to see more to it.

I have only remembered the fucker/father thing after watching that clip above - no idea when in my memory that switch was made.

Those photos could link Decard to the replicants which would be great deal more elegant.

Maybe the multiplicity of versions is all part of a plan with the story's focus on memory?  

Bottom line: there is still no perfect version of BladeRunner.

g.man wrote:

It creates an elegant ambiguity that all the unicorns in the world never could. Is it hinting he's a replicant, or is it just drawing a parallel between the similarities between being human and being replicant, or is it highlighting how easy it is to engineer simple memories based on human emotions that replicants can cling to. It was wonderful. And they took it out. And now we have fucking unicorns.

The photos?

Yeah, that's one way to look at it. 

I tend to think that the humans in the BR universe are faced with saturated consumerism and have no attachment to sentimentality. That's without evidence however, as there are no characters who are explicitly human (due to Deckard's "unknown" status) to compare the Nexus 6 characters with.

The confirmed replicants are incredibly sentimental, and their only downtime during their quest for survival is solely focussed on memory and identity.

Deckard is interesting if you assume his human/replicant status is unknown. He displays sentimentality, but he also relaxes and has no sense of urgency. If he is a replicant, he doesn't know it. He seems to be manipulated (or pliant) in the presence of Gaff, but this is a techno-futurist world where he may have some skills at knowing what others dream of (Derren Brown style). That would say the origami unicorn is inconclusive.

The films can be read in multiple ways. I reckon even the Final Cut can be interpreted how you like, even despite (or in spite of) explicit statements from Scott.

You've literally just turned this movie into the plot of
BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT SPOILER TAG AS IT SPOILS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES OF THE YEAR.

EvilRedEye wrote:

Uh, maybe put that notice above the spoiler tag then you tit.

Done, it's all part of one relatively short post though,don't think I've faux pas'd.

faux'd pas surely.

Victim blaming. You goofed.

Well that's me shamed. Fixed now, only upset ERE which I can live with.

(Because I like him irl and know we should be ok)

A terrible Steve McQueen movie that

Imagine Officer K had been cast as being female...

that would be interesting

g.man

...maybe Old Deckard isn't really Old Deckard, but is unaware he isn't Old Deckard and just believes he is...

It's pretty ambiguous how long she might live in the original, but it was going to be more than the standard four years. That is stated.

Harrison Ford is really the biggest problem with the whole story.
They had to have him in it, but how the hell do you make Deckard relevant to anything thirty years after the first film?
Why would anyone in the film universe care about him after all that time?
Must have been quite the conundrum for the writers.

Just got back.
Some gorgeous visuals, the sound was incredible at points but ott at others.
The story was fine, I was a bit confused about who the child was at points because it seemed to tell meet was Jo and then tell me it was bubble girl. Both the true reveal and false start reveal were painstakingly obvious but there didn't seem to be clues as to which was true until they announced it.

At one point I nearly walked out, probably would have done if I had gone alone.
The first half of this film is incredibly laboured. Every scene is drawn out longer than it needs to be. It makes the film a chore while distracting from the scenes that should be drawn out (Deckard meets Leto for example).
The point where the AI gf decides she is coming with I nearly lost it, straw that broke the camels back. The dialogue is repeated several times in what is already a fucking boring scene. I was fatigued by the whole thing at that point and just wanted it over, which is a shame as the second half of the film is much better.

I just kept thinking back to the original and the scene with Deckard ordering the noodles. It is noisy and punchy, the scene is bustling. Generally the scene doesn't take itself seriously it just works to tell us something about Deckard and the world we are in. There was nothing like that here, the closest was the three prostitutes talking to Jo but that had the same volume, tone, pace as nearly every other scene.

I feel like the movie was put together scene by scene, but no-one bothered to watch it as a movie. A bloody 3 hour movie!

But yes, overall I thought this was a decent film, a solid enough sequel, it looked fantastic, no problem with any of it really.

Having said all of that, after going back to the Final Cut yesterday, I’m not sure that outside of the world building and design which is clearly amazing, it’s that good a film anyway. It’s decent enough, but it seems to duck most of the big questions that it could be examining, the pacing’s pretty all over the place, and I’d completely forgotten about the whole sexual assault scene. So yeah, I can see the argument that this is a better film, although it will take another viewing at least for me to make a decision one way or another.