EvilRedEye wrote:

legaldinho wrote:

Gosh, now I have some distance, I realise that TLJ has totally killed the franchise for me. I don't think I'll watch another film again. An amazing achievement.

I gouged out my eyes so I wouldn't have to look at visual stimuli ever again.

If it wasn't for my cambabes addiction I'd have done the same bud. They're the only reason life is worth living now.

I think the beginning of the 3rd act of TFA is where the new ones started to lose me. The bit where they're on their rebel base on Yavin 4 D'Qar and talking about how to blow up the death star death planet. Up until that point, I could live with the loud echoes of ANH, and thought I could see why they were doing it. But at that point it just became apparent that this was almost a scene for scene remake that I was watching now. You're just left thinking 'why bother?'. Same question for Rogue One. Money is the answer I know, but they could still take the stories somewhere interesting. Then TLJ came along and it's a mess. A catastrophe.

But this just film just drives home that Disney didn't do this out of some altruistic desire to give everyone great star wars films, or because they'd been pitched an amazing 3 part star wars story.

Why would anyone think this? It’s a total cash cow. By the time we get the inevitable spin-off movie telling the story of those ill-fated Death Star construction workers mentioned in that scene in Clerks then we’ll all be ready for a world wide civil war. It’ll be poorly told Star Wars stories that sparks the global revolution, not lying presidents or callous Tory governments.

yeah of course it's a business, I didn't mean that i was so naive to think they were doing it for love...but i did hold out some hope (when Disney first bought it) that they'd respect the mainline series enough to make the story the priority...and i was quite happy for them to then spin off as many side stories or new adventures as they wanted to build up the 'star wars universe' franchise. TLJ was just a little extra disappointing as it not only confirms they're just winging it even with the main franchise, but what overarching plot decisions they do have seem to be governed by the corporate/producer side of things where the focus is spinning off more films, rather than a creative focus to tell the best complete story.

I cant think of any prequels that were good or added something, or were needed.

OH? I wasnt aware there was an order to the Dollars trilogy. Only last week I watched For a Few Dollars More. Awesome movie. Indio is a top shelf baddie.

superflyninja wrote:

OH? I wasnt aware there was an order to the Dollars trilogy. Only last week I watched For a Few Dollars More. Awesome movie. Indio is a top shelf baddie.

It's a loose prequel. The 3 films aren't technically meant to be a trilogy, simply that the man with no name appears in each film. The good the bad and the ugly is set in the civil war which is before the time the other 2 occur. I stand to be corrected though.

superflyninja wrote:

I cant think of any prequels that were good or added something, or were needed.

They certainly didn't add much but they at least showed the Emperor's and Darth Vader's origin story such that it was. Though it also proves that our own imagination is better. If they had been compressed into a single film there was enough there to make a good 'un.

I enjoyed the Maul fight, Ian McDiarmuid and also McGregor as Obi Wan. Also liked Lee's Count Dooku.

Back to the future part 3 is set wayyy before the first 2...

Temple of doom is a sort of prequel. Not very good?

O G Trilgoy is my favourite Mo's Eisley resident

Just watched the Blu-Ray trailer and the film appears to have been re-cut.



No casino planet, no Rose, no snail paced chase, no first order buffoons, no space horses, Admiral Ackbar has longer screen time than Holdo and Luke is no longer a curmudgeonly nihilist!

Oh fuck, the run length is the same.

It’s almost like Disney is trying to fool those who saw it just four months ago.

I've 60 pages to read through yet but this:

"Good but flawed - tonally off at the beginning, good but not great in the middle and successfully building up to a decent climax."

...hey have you been speaking to my missus?

Fnar

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/02/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rian-johnson-abuse-politically-motivated-russian-trolls

Ah right then, I didn't watch a shit film. It was the bots making me think it was a shit film.

Blocks100 wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/02/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rian-johnson-abuse-politically-motivated-russian-trolls Ah right then, I didn't watch a shit film. It was the bots making me think it was a shit film.

"More than half of the hostile responses to The Last Jedi, episode eight of the Star Wars saga, were politically motivated trolling or the result of non-human bot activity, according to an academic paper published by a US digital media expert.............Bay analysed the 960-plus accounts which had tweets aimed directly at Last Jedi director..."

So really they mean that about 500 twitter accounts that felt the need to send horrible abuse direct to Rian Johnson were politically motivated trolls or bots.