kestla wrote:

The only thing I would say, is that without music etc, the n/c vacuum kinda effect would be more noticeable and maybe uncomfortable for long periods? I suppose like anything though, you could get use to that after a while.

They have a thing on the app now that takes into account atm pressure and ear type or something, for anc. Maybe a bullshit solution but it's obviously been affecting folk. What I would say is silence gets a bit freaky after a while. It's ok for an hour or two, and maybe the lockdown thing weighs a bit, but I'm finding I crave some noise from living things after a while. General background chatter or birdsong or something. Music puts me off coding because my attention wanders to the music, but silence also only works for a bit.

Yeah maybe. It's certainly a freaky thing, the anc, almost like a superpower, but isolation is also freaky. I don't miss the guitar downstairs but I miss something.

Do it, I'm so happy with mine. 

What're you going for, 5.1? How big's the room? Budget?

I've got a Denon 3400 and some kef t-series speakers which wallmount flat. Probably sacrificed a bit of audio fidelity for the cleaner, tidier setup, but they work well.

I bought from Peter Tyson as a bundle package, saved quite a bit vs the seperate retail price.

Quick pm incoming...

It’s a pretty competitive market. Sony, Denon, Yamaha and Onkyo are all solid options, I doubt you’d go far wrong with any. I’ve been really happy with my denon, I imagine I’d have been equally happy with options from the others.

Some say the Denon can be quite flat for music vs Yamaha, personally I haven’t found that to be the case. I’ve got it hooked up to my record player and it sounds grand, although I haven’t got a Yamaha to compare to.

That’s cool, I didn’t take it that way. Was really just saying you get a lot of tech these days regardless of the brand because competition is good. Going previous year is usually a good shout.

Just impulse-bought some of these bad boys:

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/rha-t20.20745/reviews

£60. Seemed like a bargain, will see!

Been reading around, might go for a DAP instead, a shanling m0 or Fiio m5.

Thanks for the reply.

Basically now I've bought those wired IEMs (not arrived yet), I'm after something to drive them. I was initially looking for ways of connecting to iphone (using Vox for FLACs etc.) and thought I might as well look for a DAC that I can also plug into PC, that's what led me towards the Shanling M0 (and subsequently the fiio) since it seems to offer a best of both worlds option. I can chuck all my tunes on an SD card to avoid filling up my phone, whilst also having the option of using it to connect to phone for spotify etc. and to PC. I really should keep my budget around £100 to avoid getting carried away.

Facewon wrote:

Discount, reviews, size and design have me thinking I'm getting this on pay day this week...

https://jaben.com.au/products/gov-miniusb

Also, I can just walk into the place, it's super close to work.

Jaben looks like it's gone under. Website messed up, but these govibe mini boxes are awesome. No bells or whistles or settings though. Just plug and that's it.

Check the iBasso DX range, and Sony do some nice higher end DAPs

I'd be interested to know too. I'm afraid the absolute worst IEMs I ever bought were a pair of RHA phones.
Needed an emergency replacement when I fucked my godlike Etymotic HF3's on a job in America, and spent about $50 on the RHAs. They were genuinely excruciating to listen to. Had to keep taking them out my ears after about 15-20mins, so bad painful the sound. Anyhoo, the ones I had were reasonably cheap, so hopefully their dearer models are better.

Glad to hear they weren't a washout like the ones I had.

I got a pair of Sennehiser IE40s the other week. I get very annoyed when I see earphones marketing themselves as IEMs, when 90% of them should never be used as a reference for anything. However I've been super impressed by the quality, the sound is very flat, and that's fine really as I listen to podcasts as much as music these days (need to fix that). Admittedly my ears aren't in the best shape recently but I wouldn't rank these above my old Shure e4, but then they were less than half the price, and a lot more than half the quality

I also ordered a few pairs of the T20i - 1 pair @ £60 and then 2 @ £40 - as they dropped the price while keeping the 60% discount.
I have to return the £60 pair as they couldn't cancel the order.

Got them on Friday and have a had a few hours playing with them. For £40 I can't see anything ever getting close to the quality of these.

Bass is nice and there is sub-bass. Treble is ok. Some vocals are a tad harsh and very slightly robot like (not so impressed with that). Mids are decent but coming from SE530s (with over empasised Mids) they seem a little flat. SE530 kills them for vocals as well, and 3d-ness of the sound. To balance that, the bass and detail is better than the 530s. As a comparison the 530s cost me £210 10 years ago and the current equivalent, 535, are around £320 now - so a different price class altogether.

The changeable filters are a good idea but the treble (pass through) is a bit too harsh so I expect the bass filters will be the long term ones.

Not a fan of the tips that come with it apart from the comply foam - which are great. Comfort and fit not a patch on my 530s which I can wear all day long.

These have dynamic drivers so they will be need some burning in time - physical plus brain burning adjustment.

But, £40! Stupidly good at that price and probably nothing close to them under £100 either. But I'm no expert on cheaper phones - the last iems I coveted were the SE846 which are £800.


Cockbeard, IEM is a generic term for in ears now.