I was just about to pack this in (or try to, again) when I went ask the way to the Unawakened with IC, a shitload of different attack/strike cards, a couple of strength buffs and 2HB+ with 3 PS+. Had a cultist potion for the finale and fucked him up good, doing about 160 damage at the end. Sacred Bark is great - that cult portion was like Denim Form++

Just got my first ever back to back a20 victories. The 2nd being a really abstract curse deck with watcher. Absolutely hammering this game again, just for the sake of getting better. best game ever

It's amazing that after hundreds of hours a new deck style can still surprise you.

So close and yet...

Having played corruption and cycled my deck I had no more block cards to come

Jesus this game. I was dead sure I'd had my fill a month or so but suddenly it clicked again. Been hitting it really hard this last week and got to the heart at a20 my last 3 runs, with 2 victories. But this last run had got to be one of the best I ever had, primarily because of brimstone. I honestly didn't think it was even possible to beat the heart with that relic. Good as it is it's a death sentence for those massive multi hit attacks. 

Key components were runic pyramid, 3 x feel no pain (upgraded), corruption, dark embrace, 2 x reaper and ice cream cone. Strategy was to stall early game accumulating strength, energy and the key combo cards in hand, playing reapers to top up health when needed. After corruption and dark embrace were played it was very easy to stockpile block to fend off anything the enemies could throw at me. Then I'd cycle the deck at speed when strength reached a point where I had lethal. 

Of course, with the heart it's not that simple because of the damage limit it can take per turn. I think I took 5-10 mins per turn figuring out the optimum play which at times was quite overwhelming but somehow got there in the end.

Nah, 90 pages of thread too long, go look up some videos by Jorbs on Youtube for getting started in Spire land.

I've played on both and the saves weren't synced. Was a while ago though so it might be different now.

I think I'm going to like The Silent.

Edit: meant The Defect!

I'll mention ring of pain again here. Well worth checking

Apparently there's been an update? Lots of buffs for silent.

You'd need to link to the video so we could see, there are a lot of things in the game that can do all sorts of things - some relics do debuff enemies, apparition means they only do 1 damage for a turn for example. 

The general problem that tends to be common with the game is looking at other decks and relic set ups and thinking "but I had that!" when that's not really how the game works, you take your fights one by one, and your cards one by one. If you end up dead with the same deck as someone else, it doesn't mean much because how you got there matters a lot. What looks like lots of lightning and a few frost cards is more likely a very specific set of cards that slot together very well.

Tempy wrote:

You'd need to link to the video so we could see, there are a lot of things in the game that can do all sorts of things - some relics do debuff enemies, apparition means they only do 1 damage for a turn for example. 

The general problem that tends to be common with the game is looking at other decks and relic set ups and thinking "but I had that!" when that's not really how the game works, you take your fights one by one, and your cards one by one. If you end up dead with the same deck as someone else, it doesn't mean much because how you got there matters a lot. What looks like lots of lightning and a few frost cards is more likely a very specific set of cards that slot together very well.

IT WAS APPARITION.
I saw the card name but I was watching on my phone and he played them so quick I couldn’t read the text.
Does it generate another apparition in your deck? because he seemed to have an endless stream of them.

Up to Ascension 7 on all four characters now - finally managed it with Watcher using a mantra focused deck with double devotion and double brilliance along with the relic that gives you 1 mantra every turn. On Deca/Donu I was hitting divine stance every other turn.

I still play this almost every day. It's utterly genius in that the better I get the more I'm able to identify ways to improve further. I don't think it's humanly possible to hit the skill ceiling with this, although I'm probably not far from  my personal limit, which in turn is depressingly far from anything jorbs manages to do without even concentrating. 

There are ways I'm quite error prone and practice hasn't reduced the frequency of certain types of errors occurring. Every run I do will have at least one big fuck up, although fortunately this doesn't always happen on a dangerous turn.

Very tempted to get this on the switch - true, its got that nintendo tax but its on sale at the moment so not quite so harsh and its a perfect portable game.