The Next Next Gen Thread o/\o - The Bear and Badger

poprock

Maybe it short for ‘serious’. Xbox SRS BSNS.

GooberTheHat

Series X is XTREEM
Series S is SUPER AFFORDABLE

EvilRedEye

The S bit isn't quite as simple as has been made out. You have:

Xbox One S - it's an Xbox One but smol
Xbox One S All-Digital Edition - it's an Xbox One but smol and a bit cheaper because it doesn't have a disc drive
Xbox Series S - it's an Xbox Series X but it has completely different specs and might not even be smol

yourfavouriteuncle

I still can’t get over what a shit name Xbox actually is. It’s just Poochy basically.

LivDiv

nick_md wrote:

N heck they just call the console a different name entirely each time.

Nintendo Entertainment System
Super Nintendo Entertainment System

Gameboy
Gameboy Pocket
Gameboy Light
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
Gameboy Advance SP
Gameboy Advance Micro

DS
DS Lite
DSi
3DS
3ds XL
New 3ds XL
2DS
New 2DS XL

Wii
Wii lite (or something, didnt have the Gamecube stuff or silver stand. I dont think they even renamed this one just stripped functionality)
Wii Mini
Wii U

Nobody died

Verecocha

Honestly, I wonder how some people get by in everyday life if they're so confused by the Xbox consoles names.

poprock

yourfavouriteuncle wrote:

I still can’t get over what a shit name Xbox actually is. It’s just Poochy basically.

It’s always been shit, hasn’t it?

The took a nomenclature created by software engineers and figured it was good enough for marketing a consumer entertainment product.

Microsoft’s media handling APIs were called Direct. That resulted in loads of APIs within Windows being called DirectDraw, DirectMusic, DirectSound, Direct3D, etc. Eventually they bundled them all up into an API system and called it DirectX. The games console was originated as a way of using all that stuff to run a consumer box, so they called it the DirectX Box. Somebody somewhere thought shortening it to XBox sounded cool enough to stick with.

Diluted Dante

It's because Xbox is pretty close to Sex Box, and who doesn't want one of those?

poprock

Bloody hell it’s even bigger than the PS5.

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LivDiv

Nearly all consoles sound shit don't they?

Wii = Piss
Dreamcast = Aryan ideologies
Gameboy = sexist
Switch = Gives and takes in the bum
Playstation = Wank seat

regmcfly

LivDiv wrote:

nick_md wrote:

N heck they just call the console a different name entirely each time.

Nintendo Entertainment System
Super Nintendo Entertainment System

Gameboy
Gameboy Pocket
Gameboy Light
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
Gameboy Advance SP
Gameboy Advance Micro

DS
DS Lite
DSi
3DS
3ds XL
New 3ds XL
2DS
New 2DS XL

Wii
Wii lite (or something, didnt have the Gamecube stuff or silver stand. I dont think they even renamed this one just stripped functionality)
Wii Mini
Wii U

Nobody died

There was absolute confusion between the SNES and the nes leading to outraged parents in the US.

And to bring the Wii and the WiiU in here is.... Not helping.

LivDiv

Point was they don't really change the names that often.
WiiU failed for many a reason, people would have got the name if it held their interest for more than a minute. The DS did alright.

regmcfly

LivDiv wrote:

Point was they don't really change the names that often.

Yeah but that doesn't work sometimes either.

Armitage_Shankburn

Verecocha wrote:

Honestly, I wonder how some people get by in everyday life if they're so confused by the Xbox consoles names.

I barely am able to function m8

yourfavouriteuncle

poprock wrote:

yourfavouriteuncle wrote:

I still can’t get over what a shit name Xbox actually is. It’s just Poochy basically.

It’s always been shit, hasn’t it? The took a nomenclature created by software engineers and figured it was good enough for marketing a consumer entertainment product. Microsoft’s media handling APIs were called Direct. That resulted in loads of APIs within Windows being called DirectDraw, DirectMusic, DirectSound, Direct3D, etc. Eventually they bundled them all up into an API system and called it DirectX. The games console was originated as a way of using all that stuff to run a consumer box, so they called it the DirectX Box. Somebody somewhere thought shortening it to XBox sounded cool enough to stick with.

Yeah, i knew all that but i still picture some early 00’s MS marketing execs shouting Xtreme and the like at each other whilst they all get how rad they all are.

Mind you a Play Station isn’t great either, really is it?

afgavinstan

The naming is completely understandable. I mean, look at this totally radical dude

Verecocha

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

Verecocha wrote:

Honestly, I wonder how some people get by in everyday life if they're so confused by the Xbox consoles names.

I barely am able to function m8

That’s why we love you!

hunk

hunk wrote:

My guess is LockHart only exists if Sony plays along nicely with PS5 pricing. PS5 + xbox series X (500-600) If Sony decides: fuck it we're undercutting xbox again (400), things get dicey for LockHart. MS might cancel that SKU altogether as it's existence would make no sense in context of PS5 pricing. MS is obviously bullish and doesn't expect Sony to drop so low. We'll see in a month eh?

Also, base pricing might not be the ultimate weapon MS will wield.
Next gen will be all about gameservices like Live and Gamepass. Combine these with seriesS/X hw and 1-2 yearly subs of 20-35 a month (similar to phones) and.....you've got a bussiness model? It would make them bypass Sony's traditional pricing strategy even if they would drop PS5 pricing to 400.

Kernowgaz

Bit worrying if this is correct, next gen versions of NBA2021 is $10 more expensive than current gen versions, I imagine they’ll all be the same difference in price.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-07-02-nba-2k21-price-is-usd10-more-expensive-on-xbox-series-x-and-ps5

bad_hair_day

If the leaks are accurate, perhaps Lockhart's target audience isn't just the under the telly brigade but people with 1080/1440p monitors (the majority).

$200 is a very competitive route to next gen games for those in bedrooms and basements still rockin' a Compaq 486.

Edit: Sorry Gaz, I didn't look up.

LivDiv

Kernowgaz wrote:

Bit worrying if this is correct, next gen versions of NBA2021 is $10 more expensive than current gen versions, I imagine they’ll all be the same difference in price. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-07-02-nba-2k21-price-is-usd10-more-expensive-on-xbox-series-x-and-ps5

I was waiting for this.
It is certainly something to consider when weighing up a digital version of any console.

Funny how they always talk about the cost of games going up but don't talk about additional revenue streams and the fact that the market has grown massively. Not to mention how the industry has become incredibly top heavy with salaries and bonuses. Take 2 made $1.5bil gross profit last year.

b0r1s

They state it's because dev costs increase with the new machines, but surely that's every cycle? Shouldn't that be the cost of doing business in this industry and you build int into your financials?

So when U5 becomes standard and there is less asset work required are they going to drop the prices by $10? Of course not.

Edit - £85! For a single game!!

EvilRedEye

[Nervous laughter] £85!! What kind of idiot would spend that on a videogame!

b0r1s

Trying to recall what I've spent on Destiny

*thinking*

mistercrayon

I think next gen games are always more expensive (except for between SNES and PlayStation)

bad_hair_day

Subscription models now seem even more attractive.

RedDave2

This is why, as always, I won't be buying games on release. I'll stick to Gamepass and steam sales.

hylian_elf

mistercrayon wrote:

I think next gen games are always more expensive (except for between SNES and PlayStation)

PS2 games were cheaper than PS1.

Diluted Dante

Yeah, I remember PES whatever and FIFA 07 launching at £29.99 on PS2.

mistercrayon

I only really got into games again during the HD era - so that’s my reference point.

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