Ps2.

Why does this not have Gamecube, XBox, Gameboy (original/colour), game gear, 3DO, 2600 and Wii U? That would fill out the roster without any controversial additions? If AES is in there, the others are fair game

Not a complaint reg, just thought that this might make the grouping a bit easier with 7 more (28 total)

OK. So be it.

I’ve no real love for either console. The PS2 crushed the Dreamcast, and the PS3 was inferior to the 360, for me.

I’ll vote PS2, because it eventually had some wonderful games.

The PS3 meant I didn't have to keep a gaming PC to play decent FPSs following the PS2 which, despite amazing 3rd person games like Okami and DMC, started to feel underpowered.
The PS3 didn't have DMC, but it had Bayonetta. It gave us the soulslike. Gems like Vanquish. There was BF Bad Company 2, Kane and Lynch - drunk multiplayer fodder. It also did open-world properly - another thing the PS2 didn't have the grunt for - and so came Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

I still have my PS3 under the TV, and my daughter's inherited it for LBP, and I'm still replaying the remasters of ZoE and Okami.

I dunno about this one. I had both consoles but I didn’t love either of them.

I literally bought the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. I did also use it for WipeOut HD in 3D. That was fun.

The XMB was horrible though. Sony have never (and still don’t) understand how to build a user interface. It was less of a hassle on the PS2 because that console wasn’t trying to much beyond play games and DVDs

At least I bought some other games for the PS2. So I’ll vote for that.

I think the PS2 was the start of the blockbuster mass-market games industry, really. The OG PlayStation popularised gaming with adults, but the PS2 ran with that and took it into the high street properly.

davyK wrote:

Vela wrote:

Rez (wasnt available on DC locally).

Which region were you in then?

PAL, but Ozisoft were the distributors. Absolute shambles. DCs werent even available on launch day (30/11/99)

I love* that people are still blaming the PS2 for the Dreamcast’s failure.





* I don’t love it.

Andy wrote:

I love* that people are still blaming the PS2 for the Dreamcast’s failure.

Not solely, but it did play it’s part.

Claiming your console will be 20 times more powerful is pretty easy, when you don’t have to show anything to back it up.

Personally I like all hardware, but the PS2 will always be the console that never delivered what was promised.

But it did have Gradius V, so swings and roundabouts.

PS2 will always be best for killing off the DC.

Nina wrote:

PS2. I wish consoles were that small again. Talking about the slim here as that's the only I have. (Nintendo does the hardware sizing pretty well too)

The slim is pretty cute. I have a fat one too and there is something endearing about its ugliness.

Thing about Playstation is though that the consoles don't seem to garner any real love; especially in the retro scene. There don't seem to be (m)any online communities about the older hardware.

Not entirely sure MS consoles are loved in the same way either. Maybe it will happen eventually.  The OldBox is a lovable old workhorse now and the 360 is quite probably the best console ever.

hylian_elf wrote:

PS2 will always be best for killing off the DC.

bait

retroking1981 wrote:

PS3 +1

Posted that the get my vote in just in case I had a busy day at work. Seeing as its quite quiet though I can go into my reasons a bit more.

The PS2 gen as a whole was the one that happened to be the one where I went off games for one reason or another. Most of us seem to have gone through this when booze, uni or relationships come about. So the whole gen is at a bit of a disadvantage in that respect. In fact it's the only gen I don't even own a system from anymore.

I also worked at EB/GAME for 4 years that gen, and being around them all day did kinda take its toll too.

Xbox was the system of choice that gen for multiplats so PES and Tiger Woods which I both played tons of were on that instead of PS2, so PS2 came down to exclusives.

There was the following:
MGS 2 & 3 - both only timed exclusives but I couldn't wait for MG
God of War
ICO
Shadow of the Colossus
Contra Shattered Soldier
Gradius V

Outside of that I honestly can't remember much else. As I said I've sold every system from that gen as little of it really resonated with me, and 90% of what did has since been re-released on subsequent systems.

For a bit of context with PS3, I went into that gen leaning towards the 360 and picked that up first. I picked up a PS3 when they were clearing stock of the old PS2 compatible units in Argos. £350 with RR7, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword and Resistance.

They were all quite poor tbh although I did enjoy Motorstorm. Up until the release of the first Uncharted I can only remember playing MGS4 on it. It was an odd machine and I was getting much more out of the infamous Wii60 combo.

Then I got a RRoD, I was upset. Got it repaired and carried on as I had.

Then I got another RRoD, I was angry.

Got it repaired but at this point I'd picked up a PS3 slim and its here I have to applaud Sony for reinventing/rereleasing a system that only Nintendo with the DSlite has matched. Its a small thing but they even changed the logo from that Spiderman font, everything seemed like a fresh start for it and I was half on board.

Then I got another RRoD, I wasn't upset, I wasn't angry. I was numb. I gave up on the 360.

After that PS3 was my system of choice with the odd Wii/DS exclusive.

So as much as I can appreciate the 360, I have little love for it now and the PS3 was where I played most games that gen.

Some highlights:
Uncharteds
God of War III
Sleeping Dogs
Mafia II
DOOM III BFG Ed
Various Call of Duty games
The Last of Us
Bayonetta
Street Fighter IV
Capcom Arcade Cabinet
Resident Evils
Killzone 3
South Park The Stick of Truth
Portal 2
Tomb Raider
Bioshocks
Shadows of the Damned
Assassins Creeds
Castlevania Lords of Shadows
MGS4
MGSV
L.A. Noire
Ace Combat Assault Horizon
Batman Arkhams
Red Dead Redemption
Super Stardust HD

Add to that the following PS2 remakes/re-releases which made it just that bit more redundant for me:
MGS Collection
God of War Collection - played II for the first time on PS3
Sly Collection - played for the first time on PS3
Jak & Daxter Collection - played for the first time on PS3
ICO/SotC Collection

So its an easy choice for me personally. Along with the 3DS its the System I've played most post 1990's.

For a system that started off selling at a similar pace to GCN in its first year or so, it shows just how well Sony turned it around for it to outsell the 360 in the end.

One of the things I love about the PS2 is the amount of amazing niche games. Nowadays, these games would probably end up digital, and that's fine. But, for me, part of the appeal was that the PS2 had everything. Not in a cover all bases, kinda way, but more in that it was the first console, imo, to truly have both art-house and mainstream bangers at the forefront. 

Games like Treasure's Freakout, Gregory Horror Show, Ico, SotC, Katamari Damacy, Psychonauts, Gitaroo Man, Fantavision, God Hand, Siren, SMT: DDS, Way of the Samurai, Haunting Ground, The Red Star, R Type Final, Frequency, Vib Ripple, Valkyrie Profile 2, Disgaea...

These games were weird, or bleak, or quirky. 

Yes, the PS2 had Devil May Cry, and PES, and MGS3 and God of War and the rest. So many incredible games. But there's never been a console in history (except possibly the Dreamcast) which had as much love for the outcast losers of the gaming industry.

Yossarian wrote:

I feel like the weird and quirky has been part of the scene since the very inception of gaming, and every console has had that sort of thing well represented on it.

That's possible. I feel they were more at the forefront on the PS2, and certainly more prevalent, but it's entirely possible there's a load of examples elsewhere I've forgotten.