acemuzzy wrote:

Can anyone explain why the place where the death star was wasn't not the ework planet/moon? And why it wasn't like in smithereens given how it got blowed up? Thanx

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

Abrams' quotes have been very telling around the concepts for this movie.
Why is Palpatine in it?
"Why wouldn't he be?"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2485736/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-director-jj-abrams-has-a-simple-reason-for-including-palpatine

And why is Rey Palpatine's granddaughter? To one up The Last Jedi.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbook.com/starwars/amp/2019/12/21/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-jj-abrams-explains-twist-emperor-palpatine-legacy-lineage-rey-palpatine/


I'm reading into those with my own interpretation, of course, but still, it feels a little dull. Looking back at Rian Johnson talking about Rey being no one feels far more actually in tune with the world of Star Wars.

Johnson compared his decision to the Darth Vader revelation in The Empire Strikes Back. The reason the “I am your father” line resonates so strongly, he explained, is not just because it’s a surprise—but because it’s the “hardest possible thing that Luke, and hence the audience, could hear at that moment.”

“You’ve had a bad guy that you can hate, that you can project your shadow on to just cleanly—and he’s evil . . . With that one line, ‘I am your father,’ suddenly that easy answer gets taken away from you, and he’s something that our protagonist has a relationship to,” Johnson said.

By comparison, Rey learning that she was related to someone like Luke Skywalker would have been “the easiest thing she could possibly hear.”

“The hardest thing to hear is, ‘Nope, this is not gonna define you,’” Johnson added. “And, in fact, Kylo is gonna use this to try and undercut your confidence so you’ll feel you have to lean on him for your identity . . . you’re gonna have to make the choice to find your own identity in this story.”

JJ Abrams is my new hero reg, thanks for bigging him up ITT

Paul the sparky wrote:

I mean, it really shows up the whole strategy from Disney doesn't it? It's like one kid was playing with his toys, went downstairs for some food and his brother snuck in the room and had his own game with them. The first brother comes back, kicks out the second and sets about arranging the toys in the 'proper' order.

Can't they put someone from the Marvel stuff on it? Even if only to outline the major plot and themes, they mostly had different directors and managed to get some consistency across multiple films. It has to be better than this mess.

regmcfly wrote:

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

Abrams' quotes have been very telling around the concepts for this movie.
Why is Palpatine in it?
"Why wouldn't he be?"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2485736/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-director-jj-abrams-has-a-simple-reason-for-including-palpatine

And why is Rey Palpatine's granddaughter? To one up The Last Jedi.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbook.com/starwars/amp/2019/12/21/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-jj-abrams-explains-twist-emperor-palpatine-legacy-lineage-rey-palpatine/


I'm reading into those with my own interpretation, of course, but still, it feels a little dull. Looking back at Rian Johnson talking about Rey being no one feels far more actually in tune with the world of Star Wars.

Johnson compared his decision to the Darth Vader revelation in The Empire Strikes Back. The reason the “I am your father” line resonates so strongly, he explained, is not just because it’s a surprise—but because it’s the “hardest possible thing that Luke, and hence the audience, could hear at that moment.”

“You’ve had a bad guy that you can hate, that you can project your shadow on to just cleanly—and he’s evil . . . With that one line, ‘I am your father,’ suddenly that easy answer gets taken away from you, and he’s something that our protagonist has a relationship to,” Johnson said.

By comparison, Rey learning that she was related to someone like Luke Skywalker would have been “the easiest thing she could possibly hear.”

“The hardest thing to hear is, ‘Nope, this is not gonna define you,’” Johnson added. “And, in fact, Kylo is gonna use this to try and undercut your confidence so you’ll feel you have to lean on him for your identity . . . you’re gonna have to make the choice to find your own identity in this story.”

JJ Abrams is my new hero reg, thanks for bigging him up ITT

From the man who hated the ME3 re write ayo

regmcfly wrote:

That's not how it works, bud.

Paul the sparky wrote:

I forgot about that. We could have had three very different takes of the same characters if they kept to their madcap plan. I'd love to have seen the gist of his script. Did that happen as a result of TLJ?

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

That's not how it works, bud.

You mean, only your opinion counts? Everyone else can fuck off? Cos I'd respect you more if you just went and said it.

TLJ was aids, this film just about redeemed Rey and Kylo for me. Sadly Luke Skywalker forever just got depressed, then got tired and died. Thanks Sian, you so hip.

Honestly the best thing now is he's probably only doing Indies from now on. I quite liked looper.