Tempy wrote:

Let me know how it is too Goobs!

Will do mate, although my review is unlikely to be as eloquent as yours are.

I still miss the rank and file though...

I mean square bases and solid units. Don't like them going all 40k.

Some of those deals though...

Dunno if you chaps know but if you've got lots of Space Marines , you can buy Horus Heresy -  Betrayal at Calth and Deathwatch Overkill ( if you have Genestealers or something similar) for about £10 each on ebay . You get everything bar the mini's which is a bargain

DO IT. All the cool kids are.

Well, they're not, they're off having sex and such. But you should play Warhammer anyway.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Narrative-play-The-Fate-of-Shyish-Forces-of-Nagash

Hmm.

revelthedog wrote:

Considering getting some dystopian wars though as the game looks class

Which scale, though? Cos there's Dytopian Wars (1:1200) and Dystopian Legions (32mm).

Do you play swirl?

I'm in two minds.

40K has been stalled for ages. The Eldar keep stopping bad shit from happening across the galaxy for as long as I've been into the hobby. My endless chittering spawn, the Tyranids, have been turned from THE GREAT DEVOURER to the WEE NIBBLER - Chaos has been... rather unchaotic. I don't know if 

I wouldn't want to see them go AoS with 40k, but they need to inject something new in. The video suggested under Fall of Cadia was the Year in Review, and it just shows how much diverse and great shit GW put out... it's like watching a brand new company emerge from the ashes of one that I fell out of love with. I'd hazard a guess at 40k getting more narrative based for the next year or two, and if they do a big reset, or a push to 41k, it will be similar to AoS, but without the farcical rules at the start. It'll be something akin to the Warp exploding thus allowing you to field more varied armies, there'll probably be some temporal fuckery and so on so that 40k stuff can mix with 41k stuff without any issues. 

They're realising the power of their Lore again, and bringing back legendary models that you can actually field is... well it's what people want? I hope they'll continue to be as dexterous as they have this last year, because at the minute 40K seems to have veered towards the unnatainable from a bystanders eyes whereas Sigmar, as much as it pisses of the 1% of fans that reside on /tg/ and the forums, is immediately recognisable as a way into the hobby for people who lived through the prime period of the 90s.

They really need to slash and burn a lot of dreck, whilst keeping the influx fresh. They're actually listening to the community now, and I do wonder if Fantasy Battles will return in a more polished form, based on the AoS system.


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As for my own forays into Sigmar... well the GF wants to get on the bone train, and collect Undead. So I am torn between the three S's - Seraphon, Sylvaneth and Skaven.

I just gulped at the thought of painting that.

40k brand is way too big to change to 41k, surely.

It makes a lot of sense. The buy in now is dirt cheap comparatively. £50 for the starter sets and you can be playing within a few hours, and you can even have a bloody dragon or something.

I started pricing up the rough equivalents from the Dawn Spire set - the High Elves don't exist properly in AoS yet, so they're reusing old an Blood Coast set of models or something. Even then, I got to about £200 before the units stopped matching, and the box is FIFTY POUNDS. It's like a quarter price - if you assume parity between the forces, it's maybe something like £300 worth of figures for £50 - absolutely insane.

Haha I can't, no one wants High Elves. 

If people are interested, you can get the PDF of the General's Handbook over on /TG/ at the moment

Tempy wrote:

They're realising the power of their Lore again, and bringing back legendary models that you can actually field is... well it's what people want? (...) So I am torn between the three S's - Seraphon, Sylvaneth and Skaven.

I'm not sure, either. While it's cool to have a Primarch in 40K, it was nice having some areas of mystery. For example, they recently did a book on the 13th Company of the Space Wolves, and it kinda ruined it. It's like the two 'missing' Space Marine legions, it'd be cool to get some sort of explanation as to what they did to piss the Emperor off, but would that be cooler than the mystery? I dunno. If Abaddon unites the Chaos Legions and starts the final Black Crusade, that's an awesome campaign to play, but it takes something away from the universe - every army in the game is presented as a possible galaxy saver/destroyer, so is the 13th Black Crusade cooler than the possibility of mass Tyranid invasion/mass Necron awakening/Uruk Thraka's Grand Waaagh/Eldar resurgence, etc.?

And if those are your choices, Skaven. Always Skaven.

tigerswiftly wrote:

Watched a video the other day that analysed it all pretty well. Fantasy only represented, like, 17% of their revenue or something and the entry level was insane (buy the rule book, an army book, and a ton of minis to even play a small game). Hence the reboot.

Yeah, the rumour mill before hand was that 80% of the stuff they sell is Space Marine related, 10% was other 40K, and the remaining 10% was the entirety of Fantasy. Explains why we never got a new Bretonnians book. It's a shame, really, because they went all out with the final edition of Fantasy, the rulebook was a fabulous thing.

Skaven.