yeah. sorry, didn't mean to diss you for the useful info.
i was just being arsey, triggered by the video itself, which i turned off as soon as i saw it was 17 minutes long.

Get a nice NVME drive if you have the funds.

Ok, going to do a respec this weekend. Would appreciate responses (particularly gurt) but is there a specific area I should focus on? A lot of chat around GfX

Get anything that'll play RTX Minecraft/Quake @ 60fps. RTX is legit beautiful.

regmcfly wrote:

Ok, going to do a respec this weekend. Would appreciate responses (particularly gurt) but is there a specific area I should focus on? A lot of chat around GfX

If I'm understanding you I think you're not sure at what level to spec the thing, so that it's capable enough for your needs? Here's how I would break it down:

What games do you want to play on it? If it's just general modern AAA and indie stuff then it's easy to do a general recommendation, if there's like a particular title or series that you are going to primarily be spending time in then you want something with the best performance for that specific thing. VR can be a factor too.

What monitor resolution and refresh rate are you aiming for? 1080P is a piece of piss and still looks great IMO, 4K can work on lower end hardware with some upscaling and tweaks, but is more of a faff than just having a big expensive slab of silicon to brute force it. If you are fine with just 60Hz then you don't need a really fast CPU.

Is the computer going to be used for other stuff? Such as video editing, 3D modelling, music production etc etc. Consider if you need a shitload of USB ports for peripherals, like I do.

Do you want the machine to be particularly quiet? Certain CPUs and GPUs are more power efficent than others, and coupled with good coolers can be very quiet even at full load.

The 2060 in the build pic on the previous page is pretty decent, look through these charts to get an idea of what performance to expect - https://www.techspot.com/review/1781-geforce-rtx-2060-mega-benchmark/ Other review sites such as Gamers Nexus might have differing results and games on test. If you want more oomph then get a faster card, if that's overkill then maybe go for a lower end card but consider having a little bit of a future buffer as new fancy games come out.

Gurt - thank you for all this.

In terms of games, I'm looking to future proof myself, so I am looking for 4k and 60fps on most modern games. I do want it to be quiet, definitely that is a thing we will need.

Nice decent 2k plus rig

Macs are...expensive.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/12/10/21003636/apple-mac-pro-price-most-expensive-processor-ram-gpu

$999 monitor stand.

This guy has the same intonation as the Grubbs from Stanger's Wrath

What have you gone for?

Just do this -



But swap the GPU for whatever you like, the 2080 or 2080 Super should last you a good long time if you can afford that. I would also change the case to something nicer like the Fractal Define C with or without a tempered glass window if you like that sort of thing. And either just go with the 6 core Ryzen 3600 CPU or the 8 core 3700X, either will be fine for a good while, there might be the odd game in the future that will really want 8 cores.

CPUs will improve in performance and drop in price though, so if there ever was a situation where you needed more cores for some reason then you could quite easily upgrade, if you don't want to worry about that then maybe the 3700X is a good idea. Won't make a jot of difference in the here and now though, if you are just aiming for 60FPS.

Also consider more SSD storage for faster game loading, but I would just look out for good deals when you come to needing more and plug it in yourself, it's dead easy. Be sure to go with an NVME SSD such as that Samsung though when you order, will make for a nice fast reliable boot drive. There are cheaper NVME SSDs but they can either be much slower or have issues when the capacity starts to fill up, the 970 Evo is a good one.

Still comes out about £1450. For that it's a difference of like £3 a month.

Fantastic

I've done a fair of overclocking and stress testing stuff, so if there's any questions ask away and I'm sure I can be of some assistance. Actually one thing I would recommend to do with any new build is check the thermals using HWiNFO, sensors mode and right click stuff to bring up a bunch of graphs, good geeky fun  

Then get Cinebench R20 and run the CPU test to get an idea of how the cooling is holding up. I can't imagine there would be any issues if you've plonked down the cooler with the pre-applied paste, but it's good practice. If you have two monitors you can put up HWiNFO with all the graphs on the second one while you play games, good for testing overclocks.

Modern overclocking is generally very safe, there's good safeguards built in. The only thing you do need to be careful of is voltages, and not exceeding a recommended max voltage for long periods. It's nothing too scary really, each processor architecture will have a couple of these voltages to watch out for and the information is out there, though there is some vague guesswork info that can lead you astray. It's a little technical and specific so if anyone wants to know about it give me a shout.

Cheers we'll check it out