Work - The pros and the cons...
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    Why don't you just say no? Or say you want to be paid for the time?
  • Can the other guy not get a key?
  • I was 'lead receptionist' until a few weeks ago, until around the time I first complained about the unpaid time. At which point the other receptionist was given my role and chance to manage the new shop when it opens.

    I also struggle with timidity in these sort of situations. I have always found it very hard to stand up for myself/things in entitled to. It's the habit of a lifetime.

    The barber cant take the key with him as he only works 8 hour shifts.
  • Apart from the unpaid bits at the start and and end, it's actually quite a nice job. Further, the alternative for me is going to be sales or kitchen work, both of which I hate more than an unpaid hour each day.

    Is an Option to give the barber a copy of the keys?

    Also might be worth saying to your boss that the extra half hour equals 2.5 hrs per week or 80 hours per year, assuming you and the barber takes 4 weeks holidays each. Surely there should be something extra for that.
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  • Why are you there half an hour later at night?

    I had enough of unpaid work at Game. Wouldn't do it again.
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    Can't you ask for an extra hours pay? Given that you are working from 0830-2130
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
  • Yeah, assuming your responsibilities are to open and close you can't just be employed for business hours.
  • My boss was somewhat dishonest with me about pay. When I first asked about getting paid for time I was here before/after my working hours of 9-21, he paused to think about it, then suggested paying me a 50 cent per hour pay rise instead, which I agreed to. Little did I know that the minimum wage had just gone up by 38 cent so it was actually only a 12 cent pay rise.

    I am there for an extra half an you because I have to lock up, and because there barbers never finish with their clients on time.
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    So if the barber is whinging about not getting in dead on 0845, then the one who makes you late should surely be tipping you for keeping the doors open, you've allowed him to make money, he should be sharing that wealth back out

    But if your boss is lying to you, do you really want to be there? It doesn't bode well for the future
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
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    Are you receiving minimum wage if you work out your weekly wage divided by your actual hours? The Sports Direct employees here in the U.K. won their case for back pay based on the fact they weren't.

    But generally I agree with Cocko.
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    Just if I was one of the barbers, I'm pretty certain my first response would be "thanks for staying behind, and can I get you a beer?"
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
  • cockbeard wrote:
    Just if I was one of the barbers, I'm pretty certain my first response would be "thanks for staying behind, and can I get you a beer?"

    Damn straight. Same in the restaurant business. Waiters tip back to kitchen and bar.
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  • It's tough. I'm surely the most easily replaceable employee, and the job itself is much less stressful than anything else I've worked, so I'm reluctant to say or do anything that might jeopardise my position. I'm not officially employed so I don't have many rights either.

    Still, I would much rather be here than in a kitchen or selling over the phone. So I probably just have to take it
  • Basically, you're being shafted because you can be. I take it it's cash in hand?
  • I have the rights of a part time employee, which is very little. I actually work full time, and it is cash I hand.
  • By law in the UK, full-time and part-time staff have the same rights and are entitled to the same benefits.
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  • That may be true. But I'm in Berlin, and on a 'minijob' contract.
  • I have the rights of a part time employee, which is very little. I actually work full time, and it is cash I hand.

    So the taxman has no idea. As I see it you have few options.

    Quit.
    Live with it as the alternative is worse.
    Ask to be paid/employed properly and risk being sacked.
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    The job might be easy but you're getting shafted mate

    The most you can earn is 450 Euros, and you mustn't work more than 30 hrs a week, you're currently doing 13 a day

    It might be an easy job, I just worry about your welfare, you're getting fucked over here and either don't know, or are happy to spread your cheeks for him, guy sounds like a proper cock. Just exploitating you
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
  • That may be true. But I'm in Berlin, and on a 'minijob' contract.

    Ah, ok. I'd be surprised if German employment law was more lax than UK law though. I worked for some Germans once, they were... stringent about policies and equitability.
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  • Starbucks employees have been sent a 'Look Book', showcasing the new uniform policy.  It's basically hipster douchebag.  Flat caps and bow ties etc.  Thankfully, that shit isn't required so we can still wear plain trousers and a polo shirt.  I can imagine the new rules will be more popular in big cities than in small towns, right enough.
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    hahaha, a 'lookbook'? So are they saying we're too tight to buy uniform but try and dress yourself like this please??
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
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    Starbucks you say? Well, I do need to keep busy now. But what about the fez?
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    You just know how that meeting went don't you.

    "We need to stay on trend and become fashion forward so that we remain culturally relevant to the millennial audience space."

    "We propose not a uniform, but a look!"

    "We don't want to dictate what our customers facing (insert shit alternative term for employee here) wear, but we do need them to remain brand consistent."
  • I could get them a good deal on lederhosen...
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    "That's a good suggestion, but it's not quite the look we need I think." "(Who let him in here again?)"
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  • I may or may not have been integral in designing a look book for a major high street chain.

    If you'd seen the people that were making decisions on what is/isn't fashionable/cool you'd realise that human extinction is not only certain but to be welcomed.
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  • Matt_82 wrote:
    Starbucks employees have been sent a 'Look Book', showcasing the new uniform policy.  It's basically hipster douchebag.  Flat caps and bow ties etc.  Thankfully, that shit isn't required so we can still wear plain trousers and a polo shirt.  I can imagine the new rules will be more popular in big cities than in small towns, right enough.

    Yeah, I was about to have a word with a Barista about his daft hat when another manager mentioned their new uniform policy. Sod it, sbux is responsible for 2/3 of the revenue at one of our sites, so I'll leave them to it.

    Moving on.

    Got an interview this Tuesday. Its for a 'regional commercialisation manager', covering west/central Scotland.

    I had no clue what it was either. Basically, shopping centres have those wee pop up businesses, like eyebrow threaders and mobile phone accessory stands etc; rather than sourcing those businesses themselves, they sub it out to this company and they supply and manage the contracts for them. So, my job, if I get it, will be that.

    Spoke with the company's chief operations guy who's handling the recruitment. He likes me and one other guy, who comes from within that industry. He likes me because I've got more hands on operational experience, across a couple different industries. He says he's looking for a personality rather than a wealth of specific industry experience; says he's happy to train the right person up.

    He (and the advert) hardly mentioned sales at all, which appeals to me, I'd far rather work for a set salary than scrabble about for commission and have a different wage every month. However, this interview is with the company's CFO/head of sales, so there must be some focus on it.

    If I'm honest, I don't think I've got a snowball's chance of getting it; but I'll still give it a go. Going to try and talk about my experience running different concessions in different locations, also got a couple of ideas about sourcing new vendors - where to find them, what ones I'd put in what location, making them complimentary to existing shops within the centre etc. A mate runs a wedding directory that's full of small businesses that sell bespoke handmade shit, I can get access to that.

    There's also due to be a new cinema opening in one of their centres this year, I currently work for their biggest competitor, so that goes in my favour (according to the chief operations guy).

    Looking for any suggestions from you all that might give me something useful to say in this interview. I'm starting to really want this job; more responsibility and autonomy, get my nights back, potentially a company car, and it opens doors to other industries (which is why I moved from gambling into cinema, so this is kinda part of my long term plans). Also, Mrs bawjaws is desperate to have a kid this year. I'm keen as well, but I'm really unhappy with my current job, so I want to change before we start breeding. Honestly, I'm worried I'd feel obliged to stay in this job if she falls pregnant, and I'll end up resenting her and the kid.

    Anyhoo, thanks for reading and any suggestions. Oh, and apologies for the length of the post!
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    My suggestion is that you tell them that your primary goal will be to get the Apprentice to do one of their tasks in there as it will be great advertising.

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