Work - The pros and the cons...
  • If you're ringing a call centre today please do try to not be an absolute fuckwit.
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    Yossarian wrote:
    The truth is that the powers that be decided that we had to build a new app from scratch. The dev team told them it would take 9 months, they were given 6. It’s impressive that the app exists at all, not that that’s much comfort to the users.

    Especially as you use your own weird language
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  • Long awaited Unreal Academy London 2019 write up

    I will break this down into sections people can read into what they want or jump ahead.

     

    The event itself
    Spoiler:

     

    Exhibitors
    Spoiler:

     

    Keynotes

    Day 1
    Spoiler:

    Day 2
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    Day 3
    Spoiler:

     

    I will write up the lectures and workshops at another point. That was a lot of writing for an art monkey like myself.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
  • There’s an open-access Google spreadsheet doing the rounds amongst design/advertising/similar agency staff in the US and UK just now via social media. It lists job titles, salaries, and a bunch of demographic info like gender, age, race and sexual orientation. The idea is to give a bit of transparency and empower creative staff to fight for equal pay. It’s showing up some shocking gender pay gaps, for example.

    I did what most folk will do when they first see it and looked at other people with my job at different places, and how much they’re paid.

    Fuck me. The median salary for my role in the US is over $120,000 a year. And a massive number of men in my role are on more than $200,000.

    I’m in the wrong country.
  • Even a move to London would put me at over £100k. But then I’d be in London.

    Adland is mental. I thought salaries like that died out after the ’80s.
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  • If I were on that sort of money I would buy you more than one.
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    poprock wrote:
    Fuck me. The median salary for my role in the US is over $120,000 a year. And a massive number of men in my role are on more than $200,000.

    I’m in the wrong country.
    Where in the US though... People on $100k here in Orange County don't have that much left to save from what I know.

    If it's in Silicon Valley you might need to sleep in your car.

    Or you need to enjoy a min of 1 hour commutes each way. Then you might find affordable places.

    (I might be wrong, this is just what I heard and one of the reasons no one wants to move to North Cal)

  • Haha! Saving. The very idea. If only.

    But yeah, that level of data is missing from the spreadsheet. The submission form only asks what country.

    I know a $200k salary wouldn’t guarantee a nice apartment in Manhattan. Nor would £100k in Central London. But it does make you think about it a bit.
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    poprock wrote:
    Fuck me. The median salary for my role in the US is over $120,000 a year. And a massive number of men in my role are on more than $200,000.

    I’m in the wrong country.
    Where in the US though... People on $100k here in Orange County don't have that much left to save from what I know.

    If it's in Silicon Valley you might need to sleep in your car.

    Or you need to enjoy a min of 1 hour commutes each way. Then you might find affordable places.

    (I might be wrong, this is just what I heard and one of the reasons no one wants to move to North Cal)

    My commute is 1hr each way, that's quite normal for London.
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    poprock wrote:
    Haha! Saving. The very idea. If only.

    But yeah, that level of data is missing from the spreadsheet. The submission form only asks what country.

    I know a $200k salary wouldn’t guarantee a nice apartment in Manhattan. Nor would £100k in Central London. But it does make you think about it a bit.
    Yeah, was just saying it because we thought we'd be fine when we saw what B would earn here, which I think was about the same as we were earning together in Amsterdam. But there's a reason we decided to get a bigger apartment with a roommate couple months ago.

    It also doesn't help that you need to build credit score from 0.
  • That’s a great idea, I hate how secret everyone’s salary is, it’s a big reason these problems are allowed to exist.

    I travel over an hour to get into London too. Not ideal, but I walk about 25 minutes of it which is nicer, play my switch on the train (overground, thank god), and earn way more in London than I would even in Hertfordshire.

    I mean, when £40k is what many of us in the uk are striving towards, it’s not great to hear when people get over/double that just in a yearly bonus. But hey ho.
  • I find commuting really intolerable. It’s like work but it’s not. You piss away a chunk of life for no reason.
  • We’re looking to hire a new Creative Director and frankly the talent pool in Central Scotland is limited. We’ve had quite a lot of applications from people in London wanting to relocate for our better quality of life and lower cost of living. The problem is they’re all still expecting us to match their London salaries, which isn’t possible.

    Even if it was possible financially, it would be pretty disruptive to the team if one person was on a salary three to five times that of their colleagues. You couldn’t hide that level of difference in disposable income, even if you tried.
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    I don't mind my commute. Been enjoying Miitopia on the bus. Occasionally I get school kids laughing at me for playing on a 3DS rather than the new fangled Switch though, the bigots. My main issue with work is people repeatedly flooding the Grade II listed building we work in by leaving the taps on even though I put up MANY SIGNS.
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    Aah, I remember public transport. Now it's just red brake lights all around you, sometimes 7 lanes wide.

    (B is lucky he had to travel north for work, as that's the opposite way most people go, so he actually doesn't get stuck too often. Also, he has a motorcycle.)
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    poprock wrote:
    Haha! Saving. The very idea. If only.

    But yeah, that level of data is missing from the spreadsheet. The submission form only asks what country.

    I know a $200k salary wouldn’t guarantee a nice apartment in Manhattan. Nor would £100k in Central London. But it does make you think about it a bit.
    250k guarantees you a modest apartment nearish Manhattan. Source is someone I know on 250kUSD who can afford a modest apartment nearish Manhattan. 1k+ a week mind
    Skerret's posting is ok to trip balls to and read just to experience the ambience but don't expect any content.
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  • Kazuo wrote:
    Hmm, one of the few very good jobs in my (relatively narrow) field that would be a natural step up from my level has just come up. Feels inevitable that I should chuck in an application, but I'm suddenly having a crisis of confidence. It would be the first thing I've applied for in about five years, and I'm plagued by worries that I will be caught short by the leap in terms of responsibilities involved. I should probably give my head a wobble, stop thinking so far ahead, and just set myself the goal of getting an application done.  Now how the hell do you write one of those again?

    So I applied for this job and have just been invited to interview on Monday. Fucking... Eek.
  • Good luck!
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  • Good luck Kaz. Just remember the job description always makes it sound intimidating and impossible, when you come in and do it it's just a job, with people around you. You'll be great, show them why
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  • Of course you’ve got an interview, you do a bloody good job for a major national institution. Kick that imposter syndrome to the curb for a while.
  • Finally had one (of 2) candidate show for interview today. Its a pretty low grade (but not unskilled) job and it's only temporary, but they've been out of work for over a year and they're pushing 60 and the thought of being in that position fucking terrifies me, so I'll definitely offer them the post.
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    Great attitude!
    Things can only get better.
  • Top stuff, TOMH. Great to see.

    And fuckin smash that, Kaz! In aboot it like Morelos v European defences.

    This week at work I've been given £50 vouchers for a compliment a patients family sent to my boss:
    Spoiler:
    (pic in spoiler)

    I mean, I hate this job at times and definitely do not see myself doing it for years and years, and I also find it just common sense to treat people with kindness and respect so getting platitudes feels a bit weird, but, saying all that, I've had a really tough couple weeks mentally (SAD is real, I've been ridiculously hard on myself and self-loathed, and working in a hospital is starting to have an affect on me that I never saw coming) and needed a wee boost, so it's really cheered me up tbh.
  • I love that story Afgav, cheered me up too. Whatcha gonna spend the dollah on
  • Oh! I spent them yesterday. It meant the airpods-but-not-airpods I was getting her for Xmas were Not Shite.
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    Which was nice
  • FUCKING YAS GAV! ABSOLUTELY BOSSING IT!
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  • I've been back in the country for 2 months and the pressure to get a job is rising.

    I hate job searching, finding appropriate roles, deciphering the job ads, second guessing yourself.
    I find it much easier to advise other people on jobs, because I can have an outside perspective that I obviously don't have for myself.

    Think I'm going to hit up recruiters.

    The Ironic thing is I actually enjoy interviews and they almost always go well.
    No problem being the center of attention. I guess when it's other people's attention and not my own.
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    Interview specialists, I need some advice please. I've probably had teo interviews in my life, I've got one coming up soon. They apparently use the Star interview technique. Any hints and tips will be most welcome.
  • Happy to help - I’ve done a lot of recruitment. What in particular do you want to know?

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