Scene 1: Picard enters the town’s repairman shop, lowers the broken Singer onto the table, points at it and says ‘Make it sew’ [canned laughter]

That Picard trailer looks a bit poop, disappointingly. Early days tho. The ending suggests he is unwillingly being brought back into Starfleet shenanigans of some sort. With all those autonomous drones cultivating his vineyards he is probably wishing he stayed part-Borg.

New Picard trailer has wet my whistle. And a release date 24th January.

Just did Voyager S03E21 where Kes is skipping back through time.

Meh, she ain’t so bad. Not a classic character by any stretch, but serviceable enough for Trek.

I pretty much expect bland characters in Trek. I don’t think there are many more than two or three in any of the series that are particularly interesting.

Despite being elevated by Stewart being excellent, I didn’t think Picard was really all that great a character, while Riker was a creepy sleaze.

If I had to pick interesting characters from TNG it’d be Data, Worf and, um, Q I guess. The rest were all pretty boring.

DS9 does slightly better with its regulars, but even then most of the Starfleet characters were pretty forgettable (apart from Bashir, obvs.)

I'd agree, sort of, that Star trek characters aren't the best but TNGs cast had a much better range and with the exception of Geordi, Deanna and maybe Bev Crusher the rest never gave that sinking feeling when the episode focused on them. DS9 also had a better range in its cast.

Voyagers cast near unanimously gave that sinking feeling. Even a characters like Chakotey and Torres who should have been dynamic and new to trek in terms of being non-star fleet felt damp and limp. Sure, they tried to fix things by changing Torres and Kes's hair styles but that only gets you so far.

The sheer sagging feeling of another Harry Kim episode is a feeling I can still remember on dark and lonely nights.

Yossarian wrote:

I didn’t think Picard was really all that great a character

I will cut you.

I hated her even in the background. Religion and tediously predictable teenage rebellion. Bleh.

Yossarian wrote:

I hated her even in the background. Religion and tediously predictable teenage rebellion. Bleh.

Whatever about liking the character, she had a proper characters journey. Sure, she starts out as the uppy rebellion fighter who believes in the religious dogma but she then has to accept that to secure bajor they have to become a small part of the federation, losing some of their independence. She discovers that much of the heroes and villains of the war weren't as they were portrayed and that the religious side of bajor is almost as bad as the cardassians (and sometimes hand in hand with them) she comes to know and fight with cardassians against the jem hadar and her relationship with gul dukat is a highlight imo.

She also had one of the best early episodes in duet.

Dax was good. Which series was she in? DS9?

I’m not saying he’s a bad character, just not that interesting. It’s pretty much the standard problem with heroes, magnified a bit because he’s such a responsible hero. Being responsible doesn’t make for a particularly interesting character.

Yossarian wrote:

I’m not saying he’s a bad character, just not that interesting. It’s pretty much the standard problem with heroes, magnified a bit because he’s such a responsible hero. Being responsible doesn’t make for a particularly interesting character.

I'm curious as to what you want in a character for a captain of a starship. I think he was a well written character until the movies tried to make him into some type of odd action hero.

If you want a good Picard episode, I recommend Starship Mine.