Star Trek - The Bear and Badger

Dinostar77

Gonna spoiler the below not to ruin epsiode 1 of season 3 (Discovery) for anyone.

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Blocks100

Is season 2 of Discovery when young Spock has a beard, and then he doesn't have a beard?

Paul the sparky

Second most important arc in sci-fi, that

Dinostar77

Blocks100 wrote:

Is season 2 of Discovery when young Spock has a beard, and then he doesn't have a beard?

Yes

superflyninja

Dinostar77 wrote:

Gonna spoiler the below not to ruin epsiode 1 of season 3 (Discovery) for anyone.

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The romulans as per TNG epsiode "timescape" use an artifical singularity to power their ships. No dilithium. So their fleet should be fine. Surely they should be THE major power in the galaxy now?
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i like the idea if the federation being disbanded. Always though it would be interesting to explore a future without the federation in it.

For some reason I keep watching Discovery. I guess there isn't much else sci fi related out there atm.
In short I thought episode one was fine. With some dreadful writing as per usual.

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Time_on_my_hands

Wasn't the great burn from Babylon 5? And on the subject of other series, why am I getting flashbacks to Andromeda?

Anyway, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't appreciate what they're doing (or seem to be doing) what with Georgiou thoroughly enjoying this new state of affairs vs Tilly and Saru's adherence to the Federation code. It was what I felt was missing from Voyager with the Maquis crew members - at least there's some tension in Discovery.

Yes, it's more JJs Trek that classic Trek, but I've enjoyed the first two episodes.

b0r1s

I enjoyed, for the most part, the setup of the first episode, but I felt the second episode was filler. Just far too much time in that empty bar... how are they making any money?? And the Jeffries tube was just nonsense. No-one else was capable of being told what to do in that scene?

stellavista

I love Discovery. Season 2 was great and enjoying Season 3’s start so far. I would even go so far as to say it is probably my favourite Trek.

Blocks100

Can you watch season 3 without having first watched season 2?. I don't really wanna sit through hours of Spock with beard/no beard.

poprock

So far, season three is pretty much a fresh start so long as you’re happy to just accept where characters/things are at without worrying about why. Easy to say that when we’re only two episodes in, mind.

I’d maybe go read a synopsis from S2 or episode recaps somewhere online to get the gist without sitting through it all.

g.man

g.man

*runs away*

Time_on_my_hands

b0r1s wrote:

I enjoyed, for the most part, the setup of the first episode, but I felt the second episode was filler. Just far too much time in that empty bar... how are they making any money?? And the Jeffries tube was just nonsense. No-one else was capable of being told what to do in that scene?

I really liked the static scene set up in the bar - made a change from the ADHD of the last 2 seasons and gave the characters time to breathe.

The Jeffries tube scene was crap and I skipped a lot of it. This was like the worst aspects of the earlier seasons revisited.

Funkstain

Christ their budget has gone up

Hearing good things about s3 after all my whinging above. May give it a go cos bored

Dinostar77

Blocks100 wrote:

Can you watch season 3 without having first watched season 2?. I don't really wanna sit through hours of Spock with beard/no beard.

Just watch season 2 it alright.

superflyninja

Overall I quite liked episode 2. Thought it better than episode one for sure. Why Stamens(?) needed to be talked through a basic repair though had me scratching my head a bit.

poprock

Yeah, head of engineering should know his own ship better than random engineer from a different ship.

Dinostar77

I thought he had a concussion hence why he was being aided in the Jefferies tube.

poprock

I just thought it was poor writing.

b0r1s

poprock wrote:

I just thought it was poor writing.

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She could have talked anyone through it. It was a shoehorned scene to keep him in the picture.

superflyninja

b0r1s wrote:

poprock wrote:

I just thought it was poor writing.

This She could have talked anyone through it. It was a shoehorned scene to keep him in the picture.

Seconded.
What I thought would happen was when there was a an explosion in the tube he would be temporarily blinded by the flash and Bobcat then could talk him through it. Same scene, but making sense this time.

Ah its a bit of a nitpick, overall thought it was an ok episode. But at the end when Burnham shows up, the over emoting returned in bucketloads. Christ lads show some restraint.

Dinostar77

The end of that epsiode was alittle too convenient.

One thing has struck me is that for probably the first time ever in a Star Trek series i dont know the names of the main crew off the top of my head. Not sure if its becuade the series is burnham focused or that the lack of 24 epsiode per season means we dont get the episodes focused on other characters of the main crew.

poprock

What do you mean you don’t know them? There’s Gadget-head Pilot Girl, Pilot of Colour, Ensign Tilly, Acting (behind his foam rubber prosthetics) Captain Saru, and, erm … yes. Well.

handsofblue

I've come to the conclusion that Discovery can't multi-task. The fewer characters and the simpler the story line the better. Really enjoyed the first episode, and then the rest of the ship came back into the picture and it went to shit.

So many questions from ep3:

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And those are just the ones I can remember.

Bring back Burnham on drugs! Highlight of the whole show.

HawBawJaws

So, it seems the audition process for this show is to have had a big role in hell on wheels previously. There's captain pike (anson mount who played Cullen bohannon), the baddie in the bar (forget the characters name, but that's jake t weber, played a carpet bagging governor in hell on wheels), and in this episode, the raider with the mantis looking helmet (a criminally underused Christopher heyerdahl, who was the swede in hell on wheels).

Next week, we find out chief O'brien has been frozen for 850 years so they can give colm meaney a role.

Dinostar77

I'm not sure Discovery has ever settled on what type of Star Trek series it wants to be. The epsiodes vary in quality of the storytelling. So the federation existed for another 750 odd years before "the burn" destroyed it. Thats a very very long time for an empire to exist.

Also they seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room. Romulan ships werent powered by dilithum but by an artifical singularity. Surely the romulan empire would be having a field day across the alpha quadrant.

If I was Saru, i would be more interested in acquiring the shields and weapons of the day as Discovery wont last long in a fight.

superflyninja

This episode just confused me with its stupidity. So much so I'm wondering if im the one missing something.
To risk being terribly old fashioned and seriously un-woke, I thought Burnham looked fairly hawt in the black and with the long hair.

Dinostar77

Just seen epiosde 3 and im not what to make of this season. Burnham seems to have somehow forgotten she was brought up on vulcan. Not sure where the series is going. TNG overall theme was exploration. DS9 was war. VOYAGER was getting home. Not sure what the overall theme for Discovery is.

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superflyninja

The theme is diversity and reacting with SUPER emotions at every minor thing.

b0r1s

Not sure why

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This is one of the problems with current TV series. They are too short to allow different levels of character to develop in a show. 22 episode series afford the ability for script writers to develop more characters over time. 10 episodes is great for something that is action or that have one or two characters to develop. Trek isn’t it.

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