Liveinadive wrote:

The was a game of the Amiga very similar to Choplifter called Apocalypse. I only ever had a demo of the first level but I loved it, the helicopter handled a bit better than Choplifter which made a big difference.

Ha, HOMAGE.  I remember wanting my mate to get Zeewolf based on the demo, but he never did.  

As mentioned, Red Zone is my get to the chopper game:



Not just a technical marvel, it's genuinely good to learn how to beat it - 'cos it's tough - and the on foot sections, while slow paced, are decent too.

Nah I'm done. I may try and complete desert strike one day but I'm done for now.

Half of the Dreamcast library probably fits the bill. 

16bit-wise:

MD : Subterrania : Superb game but only a handful of levels. A determined weekend would see it off I reckon.
SNES : There's was a Kirby compilation cart that was lovely but wouldn't have had a lot of lasting value.

Disagree with Sub-Terrania, but only because it took me ages to beat (and it's one of my faves).  The last few stages are tough.  

I found myself being disappointed with a lot of things I was looking forward to on Dreamcast.  Trickstyle, Sega Rally 2, Furfighters.  I enjoyed both, but were Space Channel 5 and Confidential Mission worth the money?

Alex Kidd in Shinobi World.  Probably the second best Kidd game, which shows what a crappy mascot he was in fairness, but weighs in at an are-you-kidding-me 25 minutes or so once you know the stages.

Edit: Four levels, and one of those mostly consists of a pre-bigbad boss-rush.

Soleil: MD Zelda-alike which is great but too short and a bit of a breeze.  Bought for £50 and finished it in a weekend.  Fortunate that I worked at Game at the time and could get a refund.

Nope. HLTB lists Soleil at 8hrs and Story of Thor at 6.  Maybe Soleil didn't have a clock and it just felt a bit longer.  I remember getting all the animal buddies, but maybe that was required for completion.

Actually the ultimate one of these is probably Castle of illusion on the MD. Never bought it but played it at a mate's house. Second go and it was done, and no real reason to play it again. Looked nice though.

Buster Busts Loose would probably be considered a rental too. I paid full price (£50 in '92-3 yikes) but didn't feel short changed. Loved that game.

Some of Konami's games (Buster Busts Loose is a case in point) had an easy mode that left some sections out so you didn't see the whole game.

They should have extended that to a hard mode instead of just shortening your health bar.

Thing is - these games were enjoyable. Back then a game's difficulty was its badge of honour but being entertaining gives more value. Nintendo were very good at that - building a game that isn't too hard to complete but offers a challenge up for experts without resorting to hit points or health points.

Building some sort of replay value into a simple game can, with a bit of thought, add a pile of value.

Played some Choplifter III.

It's ok, nothing special but decent enough. The aiming seems a bit rough, especially for the special weapons.

Hard to judge only playing for 5 levels, but I think it's good enough to keep on the Pi.

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I'm in a Mega Drive mood.