Splicing fibre and connecting it to co-axial isn't something I would think was being done for domestic properties - would be a hell of a lot of work. It also requires conversion from light to electrical pulse which requires gadgetry and power.

Power can run up the centre of fibre cables so that would provide that - but as far as I know that is only when you have long runs that require boosting such as undersea fibre runs.

Incidentally, the first attempt at fibre cabling under the sea failed because the powered core pulses attracted sharks that chomped on the cables. Shielding sorted that out.

davyK wrote:

Fibre to 5G antenna is the current desired outcome. Then you won't need anything physical coming into your house. Won't need a router either - just 5G devices.

That will take a while to roll out though.

Isn't 5g faster than any fiber? So it would be artificially constrained in that configuration?

5G isn’t some sort of mesh network that’s 100% wireless, it’s high speed underground fibre around the country with loads of tiny Wi-Fi connection points.

The fibre will never need to reach your house again. You just need to make sure there are enough Wi-Fi transmitters near your house.

Thank you.

GooberTheHat wrote:

Fibre to 5G antenna is the current desired outcome. Then you won't need anything physical coming into your house. Won't need a router either - just 5G devices. That will take a while to roll out though.

Isn't 5g faster than any fiber? So it would be artificially constrained in that configuration?

5g needs fibre running to every antenna. It also doesn't have the range that 4g does - it needs more antenna.

I am not sure of the physics involved re theroetical of wired v wireless but for now fibre is number 1.  Fibre is light and it can involve multiple spectra / wavelengths down one strand.  Heard last week the top end 10cm cable can have up to 7000 fibres running down it.

I've got a netgear modem and a Linksys router. I've had a bit of a play, prioritising some stuff, but I've not touched it in a while (the laptops been on the blink and the desktop isn't in a convenient place to plug in, and I think you need a hard wire connection to do the advanced stuff).

gaming router? That smacks of con-talk.

Once traffic is out there is no QoS so prioritising traffic in the house would hardly make a difference - at least that's what I reckon....

Makes a difference does it? I suppose it depends on what else is being used - but it all goes down the same pipe once it's outside...

A good beefy signal around the house is worth forking out for alright.

Ayyyy. There’s a setting the Xbox menus for switching double NAT on or off.

I have no idea whether that info is useful for you, but it’s a thing I remember.

https://support.xbox.com/en-GB/help/hardware-network/connect-network/double-nat-detected

https://www.technewstoday.com/double-nat-detected/

I’d hazard a guess you’re right - that both your Nokia and Eero ‘base’ station are functioning as routers, and you therefore are doubling up network address translations.

For Eero to work, I believe that it needs to be the main router. Which means your Nokia needs to be reduced to a mere modem and simply bridge the WAN (Internet) connection to your Eero base station.

That connection will need to be wired, otherwise as soon as you put the Nokia in bridge, you’ll lose its WiFi and therefore won’t be able to connect. What I’d do:

1. Connect with a laptop and Ethernet directly to the Nokia box in router mode
2. Put the Nokia into bridge mode, check this has worked using the connected laptop (prob no internet at this stage)
3. Turn off the Eero base station, then Connect (wired) and to the nokia and turn on
4. If Eero is good and plug and play it should just work: receive connection from Nokia and start routing it via WiFi to devices
5. If Eero a bit shit may need resetting and setting up via the app again but either way at this stage you should have connection via Eero only

If that doesn’t work, put the Nokia back into router mode and call someone sorry

To reiterate you need wired connections to sort the Nokia (so you can check bridge connection and reset to router if needed) and between Nokia and Eero. The wired connection between Nokia and Eero must be permanent

Sorry if some of this is obvious / already tried etc. But I guarantee that
1. The Eero has no modem and cannot function without one in the chain
2. One of your routers must be in bridge mode
3. You cannot get the mesh working from a non mesh router (Nokia)
4. So it’s your Nokia which must be in bridge mode

And what’s going wrong is the connection between Nokia and Eero (no Internet to Eero = no Internet connection to any connected devices) and that will be either
1. Nokia not working / connecting properly in bridge mode (verify with wired laptop)
2. Connection between Nokia and Eero not working
(Needs wired connection and possible re set up of Eero)

Yeah, I'll try in morning. It is already connected with a LAN cable to the mesh. And we're saying I should also LAN the laptop into the other port on the mesh to check connection?

Because when I set the beacon to bridge before, with mesh connected via LAN. It all just crashed and burned.

Facewon wrote:

And we're saying I should also LAN the laptop into the other port on the mesh to check connection?  

No. You should LAN the laptop into the other port on the Nokia to make the switch into bridge mode. Because when you do it, the Nokia won’t be working as router any more, let alone broadcasting any Wi-Fi signal. So you’ll need to be hardwired to be able to then do a restart.

Then disconnect the laptop and if everything isn’t magically working, reboot (or even factory reset) your Eero and set it up fresh. It should be picking up the Internet connection via LAN from the Nokia, and ready to go.

Also, as Face said, fuck absolutely everything to do with networking right in the ear. It shouldn’t be so fucking difficult in the year of our lord 2023.