Yossarian wrote:I think it’s actually a good idea. Johnson was the only director that Disney got in for any of the movies that showed any willingness to buck any part of the formula and try and do something new. If there’s any future to the film franchises, it’s with someone like Johnson.
Yossarian wrote:Apparently this is the entirety of Snoke’s scenes in TFA.
I really don’t think that the argument that his death in the second film made a decent third film impossible holds much weight.
bad_hair_day wrote:This take had me make a cup of tea and eat that last slice of cake. Cheers.Matt_82 wrote:Had 8 been good, I would have cared enough to be annoyed about 9. But as 8 killed all my enthusiasm, I didn't give a single shit about 9 and still don't. I barely remember a thing about it. It's a fleeting memory like any other generic action flick. 9 may or may not be better or worse than 8 but 8 made sure I don't care either way.
superflyninja wrote:Look at the Star Wars division in this very forum. Division generated by Rian Johnson's TLJ. If a new RJ Star Wars movie came out I know some of us wouldnt pay to see it. Really think Disney is going to go down that route?
I wont even watch TLJ on Disney +, dont want to add to its viewing figures.
Nobody is arguing that it made didn't make money. But I would argue that a huge portion of people that viewed it, did so because they'd already decided they would watch it regardless of reviews etc., plus it reviewed well. I even paid to watch it twice unfortunately (once at release, then again a couple weeks later as my kid wanted to see it).Yossarian wrote:$1.3bn. 14th highest grossing film ever. 2nd highest grossing Star Wars film ever, making Disney more money than Abrams’ second bite at the cherry. But I’m sure that, for Disney, all of that pales into insignificance next to the displeasure of some Star Wars fans.
MattyJ wrote:If the third film wasn't as big or bigger than the second... Surely that shows people were turned away from the franchise due to TLJ? If it was a massive success then the third film should've seen at least as many people going to see it
Dinostar77 wrote:The bigger issue is that the toys from the recent triology arent selling. Me and you are irrelevant in the bigger Star Wars picture. We arent the target demographic. Its hooking the kids into Star Wars is where its failing.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/23/toy-executive-confirms-lack-of-demand-for-disneys-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-products/
Let's flip your argument. Do you think it made so much money because a load of people waited for reviews and word of mouth then went "i don't really care for star wars but i've heard great things here i'm going to go watch it"?Yossarian wrote:Oh come on, that would account for a strong opening weekend, possibly even week, but you don’t make over a billion dollars from a film in its opening week.
Also I bet most kids don't give a shit about Luke Skywalker.Yossarian wrote:According to the article, the toys weren’t selling from episode 7 on, do not sure what this has to do with TLJ?Dinostar77 wrote:The bigger issue is that the toys from the recent triology arent selling. Me and you are irrelevant in the bigger Star Wars picture. We arent the target demographic. Its hooking the kids into Star Wars is where its failing.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/23/toy-executive-confirms-lack-of-demand-for-disneys-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-products/
RamSteelwood wrote:Let's flip your argument. Do you think it made so much money because a load of people waited for reviews and word of mouth then went "i don't really care for star wars but i've heard great things here i'm going to go watch it"?Yossarian wrote:Oh come on, that would account for a strong opening weekend, possibly even week, but you don’t make over a billion dollars from a film in its opening week.
TLJ had a huge dropoff in it's second week compared to TFA.
RoS is also agreed as shit by most, yet that still made about ~1 billion and over 300mill profit...so are you saying that's a great film?
Not after TLJ they dont thats for sure.Little Franklin wrote:Also I bet most kids don't give a shit about Luke Skywalker.According to the article, the toys weren’t selling from episode 7 on, do not sure what this has to do with TLJ?The bigger issue is that the toys from the recent triology arent selling. Me and you are irrelevant in the bigger Star Wars picture. We arent the target demographic. Its hooking the kids into Star Wars is where its failing. https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/23/toy-executive-confirms-lack-of-demand-for-disneys-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-products/
I could see them remaking all nine of them at some point and making a pretty penny off it.Little Franklin wrote:This idea that Disney would remake the trilogy sounds like wishful thinking in the extreme. Undermining their moderately successful multi million dollar movies, and spending millions more, just to appease a portion of the hardcore fans. Better to spend the money on new spin offs with cute marketable Muppets.
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