why dont they all play MAG instead?

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I've never played WoW but why does it bother you if people do? There's surely a huge social element to it similar to posting on a forum.

NOw I am thinking of Chen-sans talk about Journey, and the research into in-game interaction.

@MK64
Why don't they all play Mafia together?

I've never touched WoW, but the idea of raids and instanced dungeons and those high level boses seem pretty good. Borderlands 2 kinda apes it, but only for 4 players. I wouldn't be against a similar streamlined aproach elsewhere, and I personally think it's what Bungie are cooking up with Destiny, except with randomised missions as padding between events. Loot is already confirmed so it's logical.

Liveinadive wrote:

@MK64 Why don't they all play Mafia together?

exactly.

It doesn't really bother me, just never understood it. We've never really had much of a WoW community here.. I suppose that's because they spend less time talking about games (bears and blums) and more time playing them

is it a strategy game?

I appreciate I could read up on it but I don't think I want to.. i'm just fine with an overview. The dungeon raids.. is it just a case of levelling up, ala dark souls?

I played the free week trial to see what it was all about. Grind isn't even the word, an absolute waste of time.

I could kill 3 boars to finish the quest but no it is always 15 boars.
It seemed to me to be artificially grindy so they can develop the least amount of game for the most amount of subscription money. Then of course the player pulls the other way and plays as much as possible to get the most value out of their sub.

Tedious would be the word that best described my WoW experience.

It is one of the better South Park episodes. Everything i know about WoW i know from that ep.

I've played it on and off for years now depending who in my circle of friends is into it. WoW has managed some sheer feats of world design and it should be one of the most lauded games of this gen imo.

Of course the success is a double edged sword. I've grown incredibly bored and dismissive of the entire genre since everything tries to ape it so much. Only recent one to buck the trend a little bit is The Secret World but it has no chance of sustaining interest as much as WoW did in the first few years.

I have a mate who plays it nearly every idle moment he has at home. His guildmaster actually pays his sub for him to keep doing raids.

mk64 wrote:

is it a strategy game? I appreciate I could read up on it but I don't think I want to.. i'm just fine with an overview. The dungeon raids.. is it just a case of levelling up, ala dark souls?

It's an open world RPG. Most of your time will be spent "grinding" on monsters in progressively more dificult areas that vary from snow capped mountainous places to noisy green jungles (and even an area completely underwater) so you level up get better gear the usual stuff. Quests are given to you in local towns that you can go out and manage which include your standard mocked kill 15 boar quests but after one of the expansions, Cataclysm, Blizzard revamped most of the original content and those kind of quests are nowhere near as prevalent.

Some areas include dungeons (or "instances" as they're more often called) which are purpose built for groups of 5 players to tackle together with much more difficult monsters and many large boss creatures that require specialized party members like the tank, healer and DPS and are impossible to solo or without working as a group. Raids are the same thing but in huge grandiose areas that include more players. I believe in vanilla WoW there were some 40 man raids that required an INSANE amount of organization not just to play but to setup runs where everyone could get together. Most raids now are 20 man and a few 10 man I believe.

There's also a strong PVP scene if you join PVP servers. Depending on what race you select for your character you're lumped into one of two opposing factions who you can attack and likewise get mauled by in the game world as you're going about your business. On some of the the servers it can be quite fun as you can get ambushed by a group of players marauding about picking off people one by one and use the general chat to try and assemble a posse to hunt them down in retribution. Very frontier like.

Thanks bollock

It has honds in it.