Liveinadive wrote:Argue properly Rouj!
retroking1981 wrote:Both is cool if thats your thing but the gameplay has to be there surely? A game that plays bad is bad.
retroking1981 wrote:The title of the thread is Experience vs Gameplay.
hylian_elf wrote:Right?retroking1981 wrote:The title of the thread is Experience vs Gameplay.
AJ wrote:Last Guardian says hello.
hylian_elf wrote:Does Dear Esther have gameplay and play well?
AJ wrote:retroking1981 wrote:Both is cool if thats your thing but the gameplay has to be there surely? A game that plays bad is bad.
No. You could equally argue a game with no experience (as we're calling it) is bad. I, for instance, have zero interest in almost all games that are just a challenge with nothing more.
retroking1981 wrote:Asking to pick one over the other?hylian_elf wrote:Right?retroking1981 wrote:The title of the thread is Experience vs Gameplay.
Tempy wrote:I may have wandered off point.
Anyway, gatekeeping is bad.
AJ wrote:Current example:
I'm playing Doom at the moment. I'm eager to get into the next level to see what happens. If it was just the same arena over and over, with more/harder enemies, I would have put it aside days ago.
Equally, Geometry Wars is extremely good, mechanically. As there's no content progression, I fire it up for a quick blast every couple of months and that's it.
AJ wrote:I, for instance, have zero interest in almost all games that are just a challenge with nothing more.
AJ wrote:Geometry Wars is extremely good, mechanically. As there's no content progression, I fire it up for a quick blast every couple of months and that's it.
Yossarian wrote:AJ wrote:retroking1981 wrote:Both is cool if thats your thing but the gameplay has to be there surely? A game that plays bad is bad.
No. You could equally argue a game with no experience (as we're calling it) is bad. I, for instance, have zero interest in almost all games that are just a challenge with nothing more.
I'd say you're in a minority, and I can point to far more games which were massive hits with a challenge and nothing more (Doom, Bomberman, Worms, Street Fighter all spring to mind) than ones which were experiences with no gameplay.
I made the thread as a starting point for discussion.hylian_elf wrote:retroking1981 wrote:Asking to pick one over the other?hylian_elf wrote:Right?retroking1981 wrote:The title of the thread is Experience vs Gameplay.
Ah ok. Thread's not quite aimed at me then. I love both types.
Djornson wrote:AJ wrote:I, for instance, have zero interest in almost all games that are just a challenge with nothing more.AJ wrote:Geometry Wars is extremely good, mechanically. As there's no content progression, I fire it up for a quick blast every couple of months and that's it.
Not quite zero interest then?
As Tempy says, hard thing to discuss because there is no definition of what is experience and what is game.
I, for instance, would argue DOOM is game only, there is no experience, no emotion, nothing to learn, just entertainment.
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