Prey - System Shock meets Metroid by Arkane - The Bear and Badger

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Tempy wrote:

I can't tell if this music is good or bad - people just keep saying "the music!"

Live and Griff's tome make me think it is bad but Haak seems to suggest it is good?

Yes.

Speedhaak

Well I guess it's down to personal preference, it's up my street for sure. Kinda like a mixture of Mirror's Edge, Dead Space and Doom.

Edit* At Tempy

[Deleted User]

I think when people talk about the music they're talking about different things:

Haak is talking about the spacious keyboard synths and electronic beats that kick in and sound lush. That's good stuff.

I expect the others are mentioning the music that suddenly blares into existence every time an enemy sees you, which pumps for about half a minute after you've killed it and often seems to be cued awkwardly.

Tempy

Thank you Cinto. Awkward music cues are a real shame. Hard to get done right.

[Deleted User]

Yeah I was referring to enemy music, the rest is alright.
That enemy music though, like Skrillex dropped his kit on a chalkboard.

[Deleted User]

Word on the grapevine is that Arkane will fix the combat music - though I expect unfucking the PC version might take priority.

Tempy

Honestly Dishonored on PC looks incredible, I pumped it through the steam link onto the BIG TELLY and was amazed, but... it's a fucking mess performance wise. It was choking on my 1070. Bless 'em.

Speedhaak

Yeah I've shat myself a few times because of that extremely unexpected blaring of music when an enemy is near. That I must admit, does not sit well with the current subtleties. Hope they modify as such. Other than that I do like the sound design and ambiance.

Blocks100

Is there not a music slider in the game menu that you can simply switch to 0%?

Speedhaak

I assume that will remove all the music though. I don't want that, as I like the general music it;s just the combat pop ups that irritate.

Also

Spoiler:

Dinostar77

When does the demo end?

Edit: got to the end, I like it alot apart from enemy music.

RedDave2

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Tempy

is this like that fez puzzle

[Deleted User]

Classic ~~Hulka~~ RedDave2

Dark Soldier

Downloading, lets check out this wackness

RedDave2

Eh....think my phone just sharted that last post...

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RedDave2 wrote:

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ShabbyMcCrabby

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

A couple of things. If it's going to have the "sting" every time a mimic unmimicks then I'm out. It got tiring in Dead Space and it's already tired here. Just cheap.
Also, fix that enemy music! One little dude does not warrant that. Also the combat is clunky as they're fairly skittish but your aiming is not. I found it hard to track where they were.

Also also, for a game where all the trailers had the character looking into the mirror why do none of the mirrors in this game have reflections? Additionally, why does it look so meh overall. I'll be interested to see the PC version as the trailers I've seen pasted a much stronger visual output with a lot more fancy shaders and lighting. I haven't read up on whether it has PS Pro optimisation but the lack of options in the menus suggests not for the demo. It just seems so boxy and a bit bland.

I'll be downloading the demo when it comes out on PC.

Plus it's Cryengine!! Somewhat ironic that the engine that used to define PC gaming superiority is now not working in PC favour.

I don't want to be overly negative as I like this setting and the type of game it is and the enemy design and how it all fits together but right now it's super clunks.

Djornson

I played the demo. I like the setting, ideas, story, acting etc. Did not like the combat nor the fact that i got lost and couldn't find the main lobby.

Verecocha

Escape wrote:

Different aliens?

Completely! But still...ALIENS!

Dinostar77

I finished the demo and am now suffering withdrawal symptoms. I want the compete game. Now. So much so I've ordered from Amazon.

Aaroncupboard

I really enjoyed the demo apart from the slightly iffy combat. However, it improved with the weapons I picked up later on in the demo. What has really sold me on the game however is the world, design and story. Even the small snippets in the demo were enough to persuade me.

Dinostar77

Aaroncupboard wrote:

I really enjoyed the demo apart from the slightly iffy combat. However, it improved with the weapons I picked up later on in the demo. What has really sold me on the game however is the world, design and story. Even the small snippets in the demo were enough to persuade me.

Same here basically, used the discount code for Amazon mentioned in deal of day thread and have ordered it for £37.

I was going with the engineer build in the demo. I carried the turrets around alot.

Bollockoff

Jesus that music.

It's not fundamentally bad, just that in a game where audio cues are fairly important to tell apart mimics and everyday mugs and chairs is a pretty duff decision.

Weirdly, System Shock 2 had a similar problem. Thumping techno beats for level ambiance that completely clashed with the horror atmosphere they were going for. Mandatory to turn all music off.

Bollockoff

I am quite fond of that credit sequence though.

Dinostar77

What credit sequence?

Bollockoff

The opening credit sequence.

Bollockoff

In the chopper?

Speedhaak

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Additionally, why does it look so meh overall.

Haven't recently played the Dishonored 2 trial I thought the same. It's very meh by comparison. Played some more of the demo and that enemy music is really starting to piss me off. It just seems like a forced way to create scare jumps. I hope they patch it because I don't think I could go through the game with that shit happening every other minute.

Bollockoff

They're going with a more subtle retro-future than Fallout did. Taking into acvount the suits and style of the cameras. Also there's a big portrait of Pres Kennedy in the museum off the lobby saying dating him living more than 100 years so the momentum from the space race never stopped.

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