yeah, my thing has always been to go silver, SG has been more focused on some of the good 3 cost cards we had. Although he was just saying last night that he shouldn't.

With the supplies we had, 5/2 ment you had to go one of the five cards. Treasury is an awesome card from seaside. Rolling 1 card, 1 action, 1 coin as long as you're not buying victory cards. Only time I don't buy silver in first 2 goes otherwise is when ironworks is in play and I get 4 coin first up. Then it's ironworks first, and a 3 cost card depending. With ironworks, you can almost certainly get 2 silver a turn every time it comes up.

Also, we were playing with Great hall in play (Victory (worth 1) card with +1 card and +1 action. made ironworks even more mental. meant gaining a card costing up to 4, +1 card, +1 action. Amaze.

I was playing some prosperity yesterday and in that version I try to have no silvers at the end because they are woefully underpowered. (prosperity you get platinum which is cost 9 but worth 5 and colony victory cards which cost 11 but give you 10vp).

Also I've become a huge fan of trashing the entire start deck having just a few cards (maybe 12 comprising 6 actions and high level money).

When you have a tiny amount of cards in your deck you can really minimise the luck aspect. For example if you have workers village (+buy, +card, +2 action) you want a bunch in your hand and you want to know the cards you draw would be useful which is only possible with a tiny deck.

Platinum you say? If that's one of the cheaper expansions, I'm so on it next week.

Seaside's main claim to fame seem to be the mechanic of Duration cards that do something this turn and stay in play to do something next turn, and I'm a big fan.  Having lots of duration cards in play can require a bit of book keeping, but really opens up the possibilities.

Guys you clearly want to buy some more boardgames right so buy Libertalia, ace.

It is Pirate themed (hot diggidiy) and is essentially a kind of 'car superiority' game with a turn mechanic. 



As seen here (someone elses picture) you have a Den, a bunch of cards and a Ship with 6 holds of loot that you and your Pirate opponents raid. You all start off with the same 9 cards as each other, they are randomly determined at the start. They all have abilities on, either Daytime, Dusk, Nighttime or End of Campaign, and a number at the top signifying rank, Captain is 30, Parrot is 1. The game happens like so:

Sunrise: Everyone picks a card from their hand and lays it facedown
Daytime: You board the ship in ascending order, using any daytime abilities on the card
Dusk: You leave the ship in descending order and choose one piece of loot from the hold for that day (dusk abilities are also used). Any character who leaves the ship safely then goes to your den.
Nighttime: All characters in the den get to use their nighttime abilities.

This happens six times in a row. Loot is always divided up, but it is worth different amounts and the order is determined by the Dusk phase. Goods are 1 dubloon, Jewels 3, Chests are 5, whilst Maps are 0 unless you have three, then they amount to 12, cursed relics are -3 and special Sabres and Spanish Officers let you off a player from an opponent to your left or your right, whilst the Spanish Officer sends the card who collects it to the discard pile. After those 6 turns, you play the end campaign phase and any actions, total up your loot and dubloons and move your marker on the score track.

Then 6 more cards are picked (to add to your left over 3) and everyone adds them to their hands, the treasure is dealt out again into the holds and you play 6 days plus the campaign. You do it once more, so you play three campaigns in total, and then you decide the winner.

It probably sounds guff, but there is a mental amount of strategy going on here. You have your ascending turn, descending turn, and cards with abilities such as "earn 2 dubloons per character discarded" so you might actually want to play your best card to win a Spanish Officer, just to set you up with more cards later. Some other cards rely on other players not using theirs, so are best saved until the second or third round when you know you have the only one. I played three games tonight and each was outrageously different. It really is a hell of a lot of fun.

It's got a big element of gambling in, you all start with the same 9 cards, so how do you beat your opponent? Do you go low and hope, or go high and risk a it? Afterwards a lot of backstabbing happens and choosing which cards to keep until round 2 and 3 becomes an art. It is hard to convey via text, but you can be a bastard in it and that is the best thing in gaming.

I believe so, but BGG has a list of which decks are fairest against each other as they are a bit unbalanced as each card has a 'tie-breaker' value in case two of the same are played, which is could for 4-6 players but can make some decks overpowered in 2-3 player games, luckily people have done the analysis for me.

mistercrayon wrote:

Cool definitely one for the "may consider buying" list.

The list currently includes:
Dominions seaside;
Mice and mystics and
Some dungeon crawler type game where you hit monsters by throwing dice onto a target in nonsense ways (spinning, under your leg etc). I forget what its called but it looks like a right laugh!

I think the latter is called Dungeon Fighter (generic-much?), i have heard Tom Vasel talk about it a few times on the Dice Tower Podcasts, sounds like a blast.

Forge is excellent!

Explain Ca$h and Guns plz.

Girlfriend has bought herself A Murder of Crows so we'll be trying that tonight, along with some more Libertalia I guess as it is ace.

That sounds pretty amazing.

Yes.

Meanwhile, Prosperity is amazing.

After a big session saturday with SG trying out a few of the variants, tried another couple with the missus on Sunday.

Some very very clever stuff.

Starting set called Lucky Sevens which mixes Intrigue and Prosperity is very very good. It's basically designed to force you to rely on more luck than usual. Tribute, Swindler, Wishing Well etc, and then a bunch of the cost 7 prosperity cards. The way they've balanced the cards you can swap when you use swindler is genius. (There's only 2 4 cost cards, one useful, the other useless, if you use swindler and a colony comes up, you basically burn a colony to trash and the other player just gets it back. This is bad if you're already behind.)

The game isn't as fast as some of the other variants, but it's great fun.

Time to start thinking through some other clever variants. (I've not found any websites that have further starting suggestions. only ways of randomising.) Anyone?

Has this been mentioned?


http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/shop/view_product.rhtm/139574/668529/detail.html

@The Daddy yup, one page back. I reckon it'll hold its value too.

Almost bought Mage Knight today. However, at £65.99, I passed. Really want to play it but that price seems a bit steep. The board game shop was stacked to the ceiling with interesting titles, though but I'll need to do a bit of research before diving in properly.

I've played a bunch of iOS versions of board games - which has switched me on to the real thing - Le Havre, Puerto Rico etc. Anyway, my wife says she'll play something "as long as it's not too complicated" so I plumped for Ticket to Ride, which should appeal. First board game I've bought in 20 years.