META QUEST - Stand Alone VR - The Bear and Badger

Unlikely

Well then, it's coming back out of the bin.

bad_hair_day

Yep, what Scout said.

Kow

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Kow wrote:

I have a whole top floor almost completely devoid of furniture, perfect for vr. But I'm still holding out for the perfect pc rig version. Vive 2.0 may get there.

Buy an Index you mental.

https://uploadvr.com/valve-index-hardware-preview/

Would need a new pc too. More pressing financial needs at the moment.

SpaceGazelle

@Unlikely

Yes but it will get integration. It'll start with certain apps and then some experiences. Whether they'll make it required at some point is debatable, and probably not, but this is designed with Facebook in mind on some level. They did pay a billion dollars for the company. I suspect any multiplayer stuff will require Facebook at some point in the future, and all those games you bought will work on the next iteration, but will that rquire FB?

bad_hair_day

Back in the bin Unlikely.

poprock

Glad to hear it’s not so obviously linked to Facebook just yet, but like SG says – the long term plans must stack up for them.

The thing I read talked about there being no way to log out of FB once you log in – apart from doing a hard reset on the device.

SpaceGazelle

The thing is, VR and FB are such are natural fit you can see why they paid silly money for a startup. When n0face and I were playing Ironwolf the sense of standing so close to someone in a small submarine was palpable, even though you only see their headset and controllers.

poprock

I don’t think I want to stand next to anybody on my Facebook friends list in real life, let alone virtually.

SpaceGazelle

As someone who doesn't have a FB account, FB VR is a terrifying prospect. This is why Oculus must ultimately die for the sake of humanity, but in the meantime it's great for general VR adoption. It's a wondeful medium in many respects, but open source plz. Index is Linux out of the box.

Unlikely

Fucking thing. Back in the bin it goes.

Scout

Kernowgaz wrote:

Can you side load apps/games yet?

I don't know anything about all that but I know people are sideloading stuff and streaming Steam VR from their PCs.

dynamiteReady

poprock wrote:

I don’t think I want to stand next to anybody on my Facebook friends list in real life, let alone virtually.

Yeah. I didn't see it as a natural fit either.

Even in the most extreme future, as Facebook (or some organisation like it), you'd surely want to invest more in AR, and ingest a bucketload of realworld photography, with labelled annotations, generated by... I dunno, a game that just so happened to request your physical location immediately after loading, to display a map of cute, super collectable, cartoon characters for a geographic AR treasure hunt with no discernible practical value...

Because, there's like, no way that information is useful to advertisers...

bad_hair_day

It's the world we live in. Everything you sign up for tracks or tries to sell you stuff.

Those seriously concerned about Facebook wanting your inside leg measurement need just to create a 'fake' email account, dunno say like '[email protected].'

Actually, don't do that one.

Yossarian

bad_hair_day wrote:

It's the world we live in. Everything you sign up for tracks or tries to sell you stuff.

Tracking you and trying to sell you stuff are two distinct, albeit often overlapping things.

I take far more issue with the former than the latter.

poprock

This one tracks your head.

bad_hair_day

So does your phone.

nick_md

Does this do vr porn? Serious question.

poprock

nick_md wrote:

Does this do vr porn? Serious question.

bad_hair_day wrote:

Speaking of hardcore, browsing Pornhub’s VR section is a revelation. LIFE SIZE NYMPHOS.

bad_hair_day

Quest has a web browser, internal storage and can stream from a computer, so indeed it does.

Yossarian

bad_hair_day wrote:

So does your phone.

Not so much, it’s part of the reason that I like Apple products.

dynamiteReady

bad_hair_day wrote:

It's the world we live in. Everything you sign up for tracks or tries to sell you stuff. Those seriously concerned about Facebook wanting your inside leg measurement need just to create a 'fake' email account, dunno say like '[email protected].' Actually, don't do that one.

Lol

JMW

If it did demand some sort of Facebook integration at some point, presumably you could just set up an account for that and then forget about it.

SpaceGazelle

bad_hair_day wrote:

It's the world we live in. Everything you sign up for tracks or tries to sell you stuff. Those seriously concerned about Facebook wanting your inside leg measurement need just to create a 'fake' email account, dunno say like '[email protected].' Actually, don't do that one.

Yeah there is this I guess and we all use Google and stuff. I think though with Oculus there is a singular vision based around FB but first they must get you invested in the Oculus platform, which does make it different I think. It's more underhanded. Microsoft want to sell you games, or more precisely a gaming service, but I don't think oculus have the same vision. It is cheap though and that is currently it's most compelling factor. If you want good affordable VR right now it does it brilliantly.

nick_md

Ace. I heard vr porn is worth checking out, if this hits £300 I may be in.

JMW

I am quite tempted; the one thing stopping me getting on my PSVR more often/ever is the setup palaver and the cabling.

SpaceGazelle

JMW wrote:

If it did demand some sort of Facebook integration at some point, presumably you could just set up an account for that and then forget about it.

Yes but it will find people you know anyway and it will try and connect you to them in as many ways as it is capable.

SpaceGazelle

Also adverts. I know the Index is Steam and has a Steam store you can browse (but not required to purchase games - you can buy them from anyone) but if adverts start appearing it is also going in the bin.

dynamiteReady

nick_md wrote:

Ace. I heard vr porn is worth checking out, if this hits £300 I may be in.

VR had a killer app all the long...

bad_hair_day

RedDave2 wrote:

Really bad choice to have the video show real world responsibilities like YOUR CHILD disappearing away when you pop on the head set.

#terribledaddy

Perhaps it was showing both when you should and shouldn’t play it, like naked in front of the French windows.

Yossarian

That’s a should for you, right?

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