In a world where death ghosts show up and rain murders you the thing that survives between ours and that world is monster energy drinks?

I love everything about it, but 5 hours played and 1 hour of that with the Dualshock in my hand is probably what we should expect of Kojima.

I'm intrigued nonetheless.

Apart from when it isn’t. This is set in the future, energy drinks could still be around.

EvilRedEye wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

But, it seems like instead of monetisation in this, we have advertising for Monster.

Given the choice, I’d take cosmetic-only monetisation over in-game advertising. Am I alone in this?

Cosmetic DLC violates the integrity of single-player games as a discrete holistic experience in a way that product placement doesn't. Conversely, cosmetic DLC complements F2P multiplayer GaaS games quite well whereas product placement is a bit dodgy in that ecosystem (sponsored items could be unbalanced or confer an unfair advantage).

This is the best argument I’ve read so far. Not sure that I agree with it, personally, I find product placement quite jarring in games, but it does at least have internal logic.

I'm not gonna post any more in here because it's so toxic both ways but I definitely will comment on it at goty time, and it probably won't be on the list if that helps the discussion.

Well the first 2.5 hours of.... erm... gameplay was pretty very dull. Cut scenes are intriguing though.

regmcfly wrote:

I'm not gonna post any more in here because it's so toxic both ways but I definitely will comment on it at goty time, and it probably won't be on the list if that helps the discussion.

Which is a Shame.. anyway I’m out until I’ve played it too.

regmcfly wrote:

I'm not gonna post any more in here because it's so toxic both ways but I definitely will comment on it at goty time, and it probably won't be on the list if that helps the discussion.

I think we can handle your opinion on it, we've seen more toxic threads in the past. I'm actually pleased you're not going to gush over it though, I can put the safety back on my Cannon of Contradiction as I'd loaded it up with your RDR2 comments.

It's a shame mind, because I know you love your Kojima games, the story and cutscenes especially even though they're the weakest parts for me. But I've always had the gameplay to fall back on, which is usually top tier, but I can't believe what I'm seeing with this.

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Verecocha wrote:

The idea of a third person game that doesn't involve shooting/killing appeals to me. As long as it's atmospheric I reckon I could enjoy it.

I’m almost the entire opposite opinion...which is why I can’t wait to start this tonight and see what happens.

And? What's the verdict?

I really don’t know what to think of it....

There are moments when the story seems interesting and engaging, but then the dialogue ruins it as it’s over complicated nonsense, new layers are added and new machinations appear. In terms of looks the external environments are beautiful, really stunning, but traversing them less so as Sam’s falling over is beyond comical and it just turns into hold both L2 and R2 as well as a direction and you’ll be fine, so now you’ve gotta hold 3 buttons to move for extended periods, fun. Also irritatingly you’ve gotta cancel run not just come to a stop. Coming across ladders and ropes is a great touch and you can ‘like’ them, but why do you have 10 seconds to like them as many times as you can? This ladder really helped so I liked it sixty times instead of once.

Not a fan of the interior sections or ‘cities’ as they look very P.N 03, really clean cut without any personality. Very much like the base on MGS5, overly shiny and unreal? Sitting in Sam’s ‘room’ is really odd as you can’t simply get up and walk around it looking at things, you have to rotate the camera and press square to move towards or use them, same with leaving, hold square looking at the door. Just another odd choice that prevents it feeling like a game, like something you have any control over. Doesn’t help at all considering the vast majority has been a bad movie so far.

It might get better, and I’d like to like it as when you come across the TB’s it can be quite atmospheric and somewhat scary, but on the whole it’s just absolute crazy cack that was it not Kojima with a lot of good/misleading advertising people would simply not have been interested.

I mean, so far I'm essentially doing the merchant quests from SoT which are the least interesting things to do in that game. Except I'm not sailing an awesome boat, I'm trudging through a dull landscape and occasionally holding the triggers.

Paul the sparky wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

I'm not gonna post any more in here because it's so toxic both ways but I definitely will comment on it at goty time, and it probably won't be on the list if that helps the discussion.

I think we can handle your opinion on it, we've seen more toxic threads in the past. I'm actually pleased you're not going to gush over it though, I can put the safety back on my Cannon of Contradiction as I'd loaded it up with your RDR2 comments.

It's a shame mind, because I know you love your Kojima games, the story and cutscenes especially even though they're the weakest parts for me. But I've always had the gameplay to fall back on, which is usually top tier, but I can't believe what I'm seeing with this.

I feel it's this sort of beautiful mess. Like someone had all the colours to hand then just smeared them everywhere. It is trying to do too much, and then failing and not really doing anything.
The Giant Bomb description of "wide as a lake and shallow as a puddle" is pretty apt here. There's a lot to admire, and I mean that in a literal way, as in, if you are not playing and you step back, you can see the *stuff* going on. However, to play is almost down to the definition of a "chore", as I feel I have to do Kojima's rise and grind in order to see the next interesting anime.

For my money, anyone putting this on a goty list is really too close to the source material.

I lolled when the fabled AMC advert appeared....on the shower cubicle when it closed. I mean... Wtf

If wild speculation and taking shite is good enough for our prime minister, it's good enough for me.

This game sucks.

acemuzzy wrote:

If wild speculation and taking shite is good enough for our prime minister, it's good enough for me.

This game sucks.

Kojimaexit?

I’m gonna get this soon and then I will deliver the definitive verdict. So, you guys shouldn’t worry.