The engine of the game is a beast. The damage in the glass etc is procedural, it's splitting up the mesh in real-time for the fracturing. Not sure if theyve gone down to a firing range to test bullet hole sizes but i genuinely think it would make for an amusing email to them if you keep it lighthearted if one of you fancy doing that. Might take a bit of tweaking to get perfect but as a procedural system they could probs make you guys happy, its not like the artists have to remodel or retexture anything.

The vids have been a feast of what is indeed next gen technology. The big factor is now a bunch of stuff is being done by the gpu, which is humming through these effects effortlessly, stuff absolutely impossible previously. That smoke, the destruction, water, lighting with as little as possible precomputed (theres some precomputed probes in the interiors for bounced light that im hopefully going to be the owner of an analogue system soon, well excited, but eventhese probes are just helpers for more gpu fun), all realtime, things getting less fake than ever, which is nice because now this stuff is getting less smoke and mirrors, the creation of stuff has much more freedom, less restraint.

Loads of the now new gen stuff ive seen so far has looked diabolical, but this is a beaut as ive seen so far, and get used to it! Hopefully the evolution will be similar as last gen, possibly much faster because the processing is a whole paradigm ahead, not just a bit faster, but you'll definitely see a lot of the impressive effects in these videos as signature eventually, you might even start taking the piss out of them eventually (Example being the 'unreal engine look' which was probs, id say, really made signature by gears of war, which wowed everyone, but every dev that licensed it after just didnt bother working on their own aesthetic enough so ended up looking a bit the same. People blamed the unreal engine for it but that was pretty unfair cause it's rubbish, as far as i can tell it's some over application and not enough care taken of normal maps, and also maybe a particular direction of colour correction, thats bugger all to do with the engine its just lazy and derivative art)

I wish the games coming up were as exciting as the technology behind them

Lots of different factors effect the rounds penetration characteristics. Muzzle velocity, range, arc, design and the target itself. 5.56 is next to useless against material. It'll pop through thin board (leaving a tiny hole) but can be stopped by anything more than a couple of inches. Against flesh at close range (up to 300m ish) it'll more than likely go straight through leaving a relatively small exit wound caused more by force trauma than any round tumble. Any further out and you'll start to see less penetration and more internal damage as the round begins to arc down and you can see some crazy results within a body where the round will ping around internally as the round bounce off bones like a pinball. 7.62 is brutal. Slower speed but much more powerful round with brilliant penetration and range. In all likely hood a hit from a gpmg 7.62 equals death. Very traumatic wounds. Being down range from one, even in cover, is scary. A 5.56 impact sounds like someone knocking politely on your door. 7.62 sounds like it's being hit by a pneumatic road drill.

I spy an opportunity for a secret Santa present.

Pantyfire has already sent me a bullet with my name on it

Haha yes, goodtimes, mine's still on my coffee table, bit corroded but a symbol of a golden age

Im not sure anyone said destiny was boring did they? I just think it looked really cheap in the latest promo videos. Might just be production standards of promotional material

Who said Destiny looked like Halo?!

I thought this has not yet failed to impress. That first in game footage still caused a erection in my brain. I'd love to have seen my real time MRI. The pattern would've been labelled NEXT GEN! Cheap, watt.

Perhaps something has changed, not managed to watch any new or that recent footage.

Watch it be a fuking let down now, eh.

beano wrote:

Who said Destiny looked like Halo?!

Everyone with eyes and a voice.

Yes t'other looks like Halo. Not erect at all.

I'd play a game about dysentery. Bungie should make some Hemorrhoid games too. You're some kind of small monkey.

Destiny looks like Halo+. That's plenty good enough for me.

Food and water as a currency, rather than having to loot 'em to survive, seems like a bit of a copout, but as long as it's fun right?

By far the most interesting game on the horizon for PS4/Xbone, indubitably.

FFS.

More Snowdrop willy waving.

Good in that it's best not to rush these things, bad because I'm not convinced we're ever going to see anything close to that E3 demo.