Mod74 wrote:

It's quicker to use the voice than to wait for the pad to switch on and re-connect.

Which is only an issue when the pad isn't connected. Still, waiting for it to actually understand you makes it a close run thing at times.

You're right, the Kinect did go on to sell well. It's still pretty shit though. I suspect that with that on board processor they removed it might have been something approaching good, and could have been brilliant if they didn't insist on YOU ARE THE CONTROLLER and instead combined it with Move.

I really do hope that they dump the current Kinect, because it's just not good enough. If they just go with the current one for 720/Durango/Xbox 3 it will probably continue to be shit.

Unless anyone has managed to have better results connecting it to a PC?

They need it to be able to work in a more confined space too.

I find it hard to believe they've done 18m units on the back of marketing alone. Some people must see it in action and think yeah, that works great, I'm having some of that.

Or they buy it for their kids and don't give a shit how well it works in Steel Battalion.

MS must have numbers for use in game, and they still keep adding support in mainstream games and rolling out XBLA and retail dedicated titles.

It's hard to sell a mag on the promise of "The Future of Interactive Entertainment" when the only machine you've got to talk about is the WiiU.

NINJA

Anyway, Edge (the magazine effort, not you guys) died for me when Biffo left, I think the last issue I got was 200 with all the covers. Was it 200 or 100 I dunno I had Sensible Soccer anyway. I occasionally browse it when in Smiths or whatever, but nah, not for me. I rarely buy mags these days, there's no fecking point when I can .pdf em. Did like the writing, despite my fuckwitted posting style I like good reads, but there's just nothing of interest these days.

Anyhoo, I get all my gaming shiz from you lot on here. Without you lot i wouldn't have bothered with my PS3, Far Cry 2, Borderlands, Trials (THANK YOU ALL, MAINLY MOTO) and loads other stuff, so yeah, big kiss.

Mod74 wrote:

I find it hard to believe they've done 18m units on the back of marketing alone. Some people must see it in action and think yeah, that works great, I'm having some of that. Or they buy it for their kids and don't give a shit how well it works in Steel Battalion. MS must have numbers for use in game, and they still keep adding support in mainstream games and rolling out XBLA and retail dedicated titles.

Given the investment it can't afford to have Kinect 'fail'.

I'd question how much something like Wreckateer really costs Microsoft to make. Even modest sales would see it recoup investment and thus start earning money.

Dark Soldier wrote:

Skerret wrote:

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Skerret wrote:

Hullo you, I remember your dulcet posts.

nintendo bashing ftw

No wonder I feel so dirty.

Diluted Dante wrote:

Mod74 wrote:

I find it hard to believe they've done 18m units on the back of marketing alone. Some people must see it in action and think yeah, that works great, I'm having some of that. Or they buy it for their kids and don't give a shit how well it works in Steel Battalion. MS must have numbers for use in game, and they still keep adding support in mainstream games and rolling out XBLA and retail dedicated titles.

Given the investment it can't afford to have Kinect 'fail'. I'd question how much something like Wreckateer really costs Microsoft to make. Even modest sales would see it recoup investment and thus start earning money.

Eveyone says it's shit but it's sold to 27% of the user base at a price that's 71% of the cost of a whole 4GB console.

And that's working on a simple comparison of user bases, never mind all the console+kinect packs that were sold.

We're a long long way past adding support and releasing games to prevent it being a failure.

I've just had a look at the old place again and got a little bit angry.

They had a community that for all it's occasional faults was vibrant, helpful, informative. We raised thousands of pounds for charity, provided content for the magazine, created and sold merchandise, self policed both users and spam bots, commented on website articles, assisted with re-design, were patient for almost a year.

And what did they give us in return? A small sliver of bandwidth and the royal shaft.

With the absolute utmost respect for what Petey has done for us here, how hard would it have been for them to do similar?

Fuck 'em, twats.

JMW wrote:

Who's to say 27% of a loyal fanbase is a successful take-up? Not me.

It's a rather higher number, at a 185% higher retail price, than the 13.7% Move managed.

JMW wrote:

Using it now as a £100 voice control mic is a little damning too.

I'll use it for whatever the hell I want, I'd never got any intention of jumping round the living room on a regular basis. It serves its purpose perfectly well in party situations.

Voice control is a nice dad-to-day bonus.

djchump wrote:

He looks like a Muppet of himself.

I don't find myself able to sit down with EDGE for 3 hours like I used to, but it's still the only mag I'd spend £9.99 on every quarter by direct debit.