monkey wrote:It's easy to caricature these people but of course they're just doing perfectly legal stuff that many other people would probably do. I've got no probs with people that are actual non-doms as it stands. I'm not convinced of the benefit to our economy and, more broadly, our society of having a load of investment being generated by people who are only interested in the tax advantages of doing business here.
Funkstain wrote:I forgot my point about your girlfriend the nurse. Perhaps she would object more to homeopathy being offered to idiots on the NHS than, say, massively underfunded hospital trusts, supervised by super-salaried politically-savvy bureaucrats with no clinical experience, being replaced with private companies who will sack her (under private employer rules, rather more lax than public in my experience) as soon as she can be replaced with a cheaper, under-trained resource?
Gremill wrote:On the issue of homeopathy, I personally don't think its a big ticket issue that people should use as logic to not vote Green.
Gremill wrote:However at the same time it makes me wonder whether a party that believes it should be available on the NHS is fit to be in a position to decide the future of healthcare.
equinox_code wrote:I dont have a problem with homeopathy on the NHS, so long as nobody administering or manufacturing it gets paid too much. Placebos work.
Diluted Dante wrote:Gremill wrote:On the issue of homeopathy, I personally don't think its a big ticket issue that people should use as logic to not vote Green.
Particularly if since it isn't a Green Party policy
Gremill wrote:However at the same time it makes me wonder whether a party that believes it should be available on the NHS is fit to be in a position to decide the future of healthcare.
See above.
Roujin wrote:Why does it matter what the Green Party define as complimentary medicine?
Isn't it NIHCE or CQC or whatever the fuck acronym, or one of the other boards that decides what the NHS will and won't offer to patients?
Gremill wrote:Thats an incredibly simplified way of describing how healthcare provision and commissioning works in this country. So simple as to be laughable, actually. On the issue of homeopathy, I personally don't think its a big ticket issue that people should use as logic to not vote Green. However at the same time it makes me wonder whether a party that believes it should be available on the NHS is fit to be in a position to decide the future of healthcare.Funkstain wrote:I forgot my point about your girlfriend the nurse. Perhaps she would object more to homeopathy being offered to idiots on the NHS than, say, massively underfunded hospital trusts, supervised by super-salaried politically-savvy bureaucrats with no clinical experience, being replaced with private companies who will sack her (under private employer rules, rather more lax than public in my experience) as soon as she can be replaced with a cheaper, under-trained resource?
GooberTheHat wrote:I didn't say I care. I said it was in their manifesto to offer complimentary medicine. I've asked Diluted Dante if he can expand on what the Green Party define as complimentary medicine.
H331 The assessment of the effectiveness of treatments in relation to the cost of their provision is fundamental to the provision of high quality, cost effective healthcare. The Green Party would ensure that an independent healthcare treatment agency provides assurance on the effectiveness of treatments and recommendations for new treatments to the NHS.
The effectiveness of treatments will be assessed by the agency using the best clinical evidence available. The agency will use independent panels of experts to assess treatments. The agency will assess the effectiveness of treatments across the entire health care spectrum, from synthetic pharmaceuticals and surgical procedures to public health interventions and complementary therapies.
We recognize that the assessment of treatments is a lengthy and ongoing process that should be driven by clinical need rather than either political or commercial influence.
The agency will produce recommendations that compare effectiveness against cost allowing the NHS to decide which treatments are required to meet the needs of the service within its budget.
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