So - DS said something about the rllmuk forum and trials and I was like... Oh yeah, maybe they are talking about trials. Since I got a TV with much lower input lag over Christmas I'd been wanting to get back into things a bit, so I went over to see what people thought. It turns out, they had an abortive trials tourney like we did back in the day. And what's this...? DS had played a track. Betrayal I tell you!

Anyway - DS I took the b&b forum pride back by boshing out the world record on Smush inc. You're welcome.

I reinstalled Trials Fusion on a whim last week. Was the point where the series lost its grip on me but at least it hasn't got the dumb grindy unlock progression system/world map etc. Not keen on all the future metal and UFOs but it plays a fine game.

Just one track left to pass, and it's the big one. I passed Curse of the Demon today, which is a level 4. Black belt is supposed be a borderline level 6, so I won't be passing it any time soon.

If you played it loads you'd get really good at it.

Moving from the xbox thread...

equinox_code wrote:

No regrets at all for buying the game nor the expansion. Yes lots of nuisance twat features and functionality but the tracks are such a step up from what I was playing in Trials HD that it’s totally worth it. Even physics aspects, which previously were kinda annoying, have more weight to them which stops them feeling cheap and ruining tracks

Ironically, most of the improvement came from Evo 10 years ago, when Trials burst out of the warehouse. What a time that was. Rising is very much a refinement on that engine, putting aside what happened to the physics in Fusion. Fusion was/is great for ninja difficulty tracks, but for normal casual play and speed running it's dog shit.

Yep - the physics tracks are terrible. The sewer one where you have to rely on the random amount of power the jets give you, for example, and the one where there's just a bunch of moving platforms. Awful.

And then you get Rollercoaster which is an almost perfect speed track. Such a weird mix.

Can't fault any of Risings tracks tbh.

Edit: not even unlocked Ninjas so no idea

If you don't you can legit have my old account. I'm never gonna play it again and it only really has Evo on it

What's the issue with Fusion?

Forgot how good this is and im not even good at it. For all the jumps and spectacle I think I'm happiest when I'm just going uphill over and over, probably because I don't need any knowledge of the tracks to nail those segments first time

mrsmr2 wrote:

What's the issue with Fusion?

Aesthetic, all that future stuff was gash. It also handles badly for anything but Ninja due to it having tightened grip.

Dark Soldier wrote:

mrsmr2 wrote:

What's the issue with Fusion?

Aesthetic, all that future stuff was gash. It also handles badly for anything but Ninja due to it having tightened grip.

I don't think it was so much the grip - it was the incredibly spongey suspension and lightness of the bike, coupled with the centre of gravity which was exactly in the centre. It's really easy to control/hold leaning in Fusion, but it doesn't feel very good when you're going fast. For Rising, they moved the balance point back and made the suspension less punishing. That worked great for speed running, but it kind of messed up ninjas - the Rising bike feels disgustingly stiff after playing Fusion.

Rising also added this weird magnetism to the tyres. I have a pet theory on why they did it, but whatever the reason, it fucked up ninja riding even more.

That makes sense. Just been playing HD, Evo (demo), and Fusion back to back. Found HD to be very bouncy and hard to get it to flow. Evo had much firmer suspension so easier to flow. Fusion felt to be in the middle.

Evo seemed a bit simplified so I'd assumed they'd added a bit of bounce for the challenge. This is a noob comparison though - I wouldn't know the nuance of the advanced handling (and never will).

Got to the hard tracks in Fusion and finding the bouncing suspension similar to HD e.g. hard to keep control.

Rising is way more fun to play casually - in my opinion anyway.

equinox_code wrote:

Sometimes I find myself wishing there was an additional restart track option, but this time with a single second countdown before the restart, as opposed to it being instant. My slow brain gets a bit tangled when I have to instantly adjust my posture at the same time as hitting the reset button, especially when the first obstacle requires a bit of speedy weight shifting

I thought it was a 1 second count down for track reset (the old 'select' select button - not sure what it's called these days)? Am I just remembering wrong?