And here I am, about 90 minutes in and I’m beginning to think it might be brilliant.

But does it actually feel next gen?

It feels like the same gen over and over and over.  But it’s a real good gen.

Somehow I expected it to look more stylised. Not quite to the extent of the orange and black cut scene things but certainly more so than what we have. The world feels like it needs some more colour or pizzazz somehow.

If you want to justify it colt knows a lot of stuff. Even if you don’t know it

I think my main issue is that the nature of you unlocking objectives on your loops just makes it feel less of a time loop and more of just a straightforward game of following objectives.

There's some cool stuff like making sure X happens before noon so you can do X in the evening etc, but often that X leads to another X that you can't do yet so you just have to do the original thing yet again on another loop.

I'm enjoying it, but finding about a 50/50 split of fun and monotony.

I've now reached the point that I can have a run at a loop. All the pieces are lined up, but you have to execute them all, without making a hash of it. All the time while, you have Julianna invading, trying to stop you. Feels like a different game, in some respects, at this point - as the consequences of failing have just got bigger and you can't skip any particular element.

Speedhaak wrote:

Think Arkane are one of those studios who's games attract positive reviews regardless of it's particular merits. Like if this was from another company would it be getting drooled over in such a way? Will be a pass from me anyway, never really clicked with Dishonored (even though I did enjoy the 6-7 hours I had with the original).

You're missing the point - there are no other companies making games like these. Not since Square Enix put Eidos Montréal on Marvel duty and halted the fine work they were doing with the Deus Ex series. 

And the bottom line is these games will never gel with everyone. I am the search-every-nook-and-cranny kinda of gamer and there is no gaming expression I enjoy more than exploring dense, intricate 3D-worlds that lets me do shit while also constantly thinking and planning. That's the so called Immersive sim.

drumbeg wrote:

Syph79 wrote:

Re: Invading. I've had some awesome PvP games on this so far. I'll put up a video later, but the player was trying to snipe me and had successfully done so 2 times, so was probably thinking they were going to get the win. I, however, crept from the place they'd taken me out to right behind them, without being spotted. A couple of shotgun blasts and I had removed them from my game. Felt ace.

Only played as Colt so far, but I've had great success in just laying down some proximity mines when invaded and holding a position. Especially effective from the high ground. I'd say around halve my PvP wins have come from Julianna triggering a mine.

I got invaded right after getting called away from the console to help one of my kids.  I came back to discover someone had managed to get the easiest kill in history...

You can.

Sorry, I mis-understood.  Yeah, you can do that but I’m not very good at games so I don’t find her too easy.

Invasions always seem to happen when I'm trying to search or work out a puzzle, and they just piss me off no end.

Still not seeing a 10/10 goty game in this, but there's some good stuff in there. I just don't think it's a good stealth game, or a good action game. So....the side stuff and puzzles are keeping me interested.

Deathloooooooop

I’ve seen the end. Matched expectations.

I'm a bit pissed off. Has anyone found the .

I was having a great time trying to work out this elaborate series of clues, and was convinced I'd sussed a part out. , but couldn't get it to work. So I tried some of the other leads and couldn't get that to work either.

After spending about 3 hours in total on this, looping around and repeating the same routes at different times to see if that made a difference I gave up and Googled for a hint. Turns out I'm doing it all right (exactly as the guide said), it just isn't working. At all.

So, now I'm wondering whether it's broken and to give up, or I don't know what. Wasted time. Do I even bother with other side stuff?

Utter horseshit tbh. This fucking game. One minute I'm having fun, the next I think all reviewers have been paid in crack by Bethesda to review it. Bizarre.

Burn it all down?