I can’t get this game out my head. I just want to play it. I think the way the game hangs mysteries in the air and the way you uncover them is a really attractive quality.

mistercrayon wrote:

I can’t get this game out my head. I just want to play it. I think the way the game hangs mysteries in the air and the way you uncover them is a really attractive quality.

Yeah, I agree with this. I’ve really grown to like it.

I'm pretty bored with this already. About seven hours in. The shooting ain't too bad, but the general movement and just getting about is just poor. There's something so whiffy about an Arkane game on consoles. The acceleration is off - not just in the aiming but in the movement of the character itself. It's terrible. Faffing about in these levels is getting tedious. It really just boils down to finding a clipboard or some such other mcguffin after loads of wandering about, and that will get you another quest marker for somewhere else to slog to. Those journeys are interspersed with some pretty weak and rather dreary shootouts with some goons. That's it really. That's the game. I can't imagine how bad this game would be with quest markers turned off. It's a nice idea this loop thing but I'm not finding it much fun. You will always end up just shooting some goons. Enemy variety is not a thing in this game. The bosses/visionaries have been laughably easy so far. I've barely used my abilities when my silent SMG pretty much does all the work needed without any trinkets on it even. The menus and upgrade screens are needlessly faffy, as is the silly fucking destiny style mouse pointer - that can get ta fuck - as can having to hold down buttons to do stuff - fuck that. The story itself is quite interesting but all in all I'm finding it a fucking drag.

10

I’m enjoying how much your not liking it.

Dark Soldier wrote:

It's why PC is best.

Aye should've got it on Steam. Cheaper too.

I haven't used a single grenade, and completely forgot they even turn into mines etc.

I knew frantic and chalice would be playing it wrong

I think the shooting could be better but I’m happy with the dopey AI.

I think it’d be too much if everything was ruined by one mistake especially as you play the same four maps lots of times. I don’t think I want to have to wait for full cool downs the seventh time I’m playing a stage.

drumbeg wrote:

This guy makes me think "I'm playing it wrong"...

The AI ramps up the more Visionaries you kill. They're still thick as fuck though. They're merely fodder. This game doesn't really suit long sessions. Short bursts and it's fine but it's hardly riveting. I find myself getting bored after a couple of hours. The Fourpounder is hellafun. I could do a straight shooter with just that gun and none of the loop nonsense.

This game gets significantly better once you find the drop kick upgrade for the shift slab.

stonechalice wrote:

This game gets significantly better once you find the drop kick upgrade for the shift slab.

The bit that turned it round for me was finding the...
Lots of fun to be had with that one, and great for pissing off Julianna too.

Had a very uneven few hours on this last night. Came across some bugs. Anyone had the one where the loadout UI freezes over the rest of the menus forcing you to reboot? Had that twice now - the second time it happened I was halfway through a loop and had 29000 Residuum and a stack of slabs and weapons. Had to restart the fucking game and lost the lot. Needs patching pronto that.

I've also got a bug that won't let me infuse Karnesis. I've killed that visionarie so many times now and every time I infuse that fucking slab it's gone on the next run. Can't understand it. I've got all the upgrades for it which I apply to the slab each time but every loop I check and it's gone. I've lost other stuff I was sure I've infused too.

The highlight of the evening was Dorsey's mansion though. I burst through the door, took up a camping spot in a corner on the balcony and just sat there blowing eternalists away for about half an hour until there were none left. They just kept on coming through the door one after the other like lemmings. It was comical. It was like the N64 Goldeneye days. I must've slayed over fifty of them. Weapons and trinkets all over the floor. When I finished that area I had so many trinkets it took an hour or so to sort through them all.

Absolutely laughable AI. There's no defending it. I'm seeing many game journos trying to defend it saying it's part of the game but just come on FFS. Get a grip it's just flat out terrible AI. It was a lot of fun while it lasted but totally immersion breaking.

stonechalice wrote:

Had a very uneven few hours on this last night. Came across some bugs. Anyone had the one where the loadout UI freezes over the rest of the menus forcing you to reboot?

FranticPea wrote:

Also this keeps happening.



No matter what I do the weapon info and trinkets are permanently on the screen until I do a reboot.

And also had this happen a few times.

https://twitter.com/FranticPea/status/1439167728045207559?s=19

Happened to me several times at this point. V annoying.

Dark Soldier wrote:

I find dumb AI quite refreshing, makes it more of a playground. Not into everything having razor tight pathing and flanking.

Yeah, this. I see them as playthings for me to experiment with.

When playing as Julianna they feel like my pawns and early warning indicator. If Colt gets into a scrap with them and I have a clear shot, it's over.

Also, I've not once managed to get to Charlie undetected. The Eternalists are easy to gun down but hard to stealth past. That's where the challenge is for me. Determined to crack taking him out with a perfect run.

Shame about the bugs. Not had many on PS5. One consistent one is when playing as Julianna, the left hand weapon switching doesn't appear to work sometimes (shows I've selected prox mine, but when I hit L1 she throws a grenade). Only other thing is the laggy Colt when playing at Julianna.