Never managed to get excited about this cos, you know. Sucker Punch. I lasted about 2 minutes into this before thinking meh. I may yet be surprised.

I've not played any previous Sucker Punch games. Are they shite?

I'm already midway through AC Odd and FC5, so now way I can cope with another open worlder!  Maybe at some point, if reviews are better than that vid looks...

What the fuck is up with the start of that video? It's the second time if started it and wondered if my smoke alarm is on the blink.

For me their past games were decent but nothing great. So I’m being picky and hence not excited (like I would be if Naughty Dog or Insomniac made a game) but this could still be great. The other thing is that the vid made this look like a little like a Ubisoft AC or Far Cry game which isn’t a good thing right now as that’s getting tiring for me.

Paul the sparky wrote:

I'm really looking forward to it. Having the same conundrum with this as I am with Cyberpunk 2077 though, do I buy it on the PS4 knowing it's going to struggle for wait for the PS5 version?

Refreshingly, there hasn't been much talk marketing wise of how this will look 'much better on a Pro or PS5.'  All the footage appears to be running on PS4.

Oh, and that noise at the start of the video is just a PS4 firing up.

Tempy wrote:

My interest waned really quickly when I learned it was open world, which is a shame as you know i’m all
about that sengoku shit

Sucker punch don’t tend to Bloat their open worlders you could plough through most of infamous games without side shit

You’d prefer levels ?

Bob wrote:

You’d prefer levels ?

Or a smaller contiguous world like the Metroid or Souls games.

Definitely horses for courses, none of that stuff is really super appealing to me. I do like systems driven games, they're interesting, but my favourite of those has been MGSV, and even then I found the Open World stuff grating on me. Breath of the Wild seems excellent but I never clicked with it, but I want to try it again but JonB has my copy atm and lockdown is in the way of post. But yeah, immersion is a valid thing to want and to aim for, but it's something I find over rated most of the time. The seams are always too obvious, even in MGSV the puppet master's strings are obvious, but that's kinda what makes it fun. 

That said, I recently finished Spider-man and fairly enjoyed most of it, but I spent a lot of time wishing they had spent less time on the open world side and more time on improving the boss encounters. I think when it comes to emergent stuff I prefer it when it's happening with real players - in stuff like Tarkov and Hunt Showdown. But like I say, I like Sengoku-era adjacent stuff, so despite my interesting having waned considerably, i'll still be keeping an eye on it. Don't mean to be super negative.

Blocks100 wrote:

Horses for courses and all that, but I love me an open world game. It's that sense of immersion that you don't get with other games. I want to feel like I'm living in the game world. If I just got set levels or fixed areas to contend with, then I've got the same old enemies spawning at the same bits and it just remind me I'm playing a game.  I'd argue that you can't really experience emergent gameplay in any game unless it's an open world, as that supplies the necessary randomness and unpredictableness you need for the fun stuff to happen

And that’s what will ultimately sell this if it nails the atmosphere and story.

Couldn’t get into horizon.. to many mechanics and faff.

I'd prefer a non open world thing, Arkham Asylum style, but that's true of all open world games* and reckon I'd play this if my PS4 was still alive. Sekiro looked a bit too difficult, which put me off at the last minute. Was looking forward to that but my 3D combat skills are weedy. This is doing enough with samurai stuff to pique my interest, I don't play many open world games so not doing anything exciting/new wouldn't be a problem for me if I enjoy the combat. Mad Max and Shadow of Mordor are two of my favourites and they're on the simple side. Hopefully this gets a PS5 release too (or works on that if you pop the disc in).

*Breath of the Wild managed to change my mind on second playthrough, to the point where I'll now admit that it's better than the traditional Zelda I would've asked for.

https://www.gamesradar.com/ghost-of-tsushima-interview-nate-fox

Sounds amazing

Still
Looks shit obvs

"The game is a love letter to the generic open worlder full of pointless collectables and busy work," says Nate Fox, creative director for Ghost of Tsushima. Straight from the horses mouth eh.