Wii and Wii U - The Bear and Badger

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WiiU Launch Details

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[url=http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/nintendo_direct_47764.html]Nintendo Europe Nintendo Direct[/url]
Specs

2Gb memory - 1gb for system and 1gb for games
Games store up to 25gb, and stream at 22.5mb, they are proprietary blu-ray discs, but the system won't play blu-rays.
Full HD support at 720 and 1080p
Nintendo TVii announced too
Backwards compatible with Wii, sensor bars, and Wii Motion Plus controllers, as well as nunchuks.Â
You can transfer Wii games to Wii U
MiiVerse built in, can jump to it within games as part of memory sharing

There are two editions of the WiiU available at launch, the basic and the premium. Europe also gets a Premium bundle packed with ZombiU

Prices are set by retailers, but it's roughly -

Â£250 for the basic

Â£320 for the premium

Â£350 for premium + ZombiU

You will be able to buy a nunchuk/controller/sensor bar pack, price not mentioned. They will also sell gamepads separate when games that support 2 come out. The XE comparison from Japan's Nintendo Direct put them at Â£107 (!)

Here's the differences between the two editions.
Note that neither come with a Wii controller.Â

Basic Edition
White console and gamepad
8GB memory
2XAC adaptors (one for console, one for gamepad)
HDMI cable

Premium Edition
Black console and gamepad
32GB Memory
2xAC adaptors
HDMI cable
1xStand for gamepad
1xCharging cradle for gamepad
Copy of Nintendoland
Access to a program allowing 'cashback *copyright Partridge*' worth about 10% on your E-Shop purchases until end of Dec 2014. Seems to suggest ALL Nintendo Network purchases (ie 3DS as well)

Launch Games - In shops

[i]New Super Mario Bros WiiU[/i]
[i]NintendoLand[/i]
[i]ZombiU[/i]
[i]Rayman Origins[/i]
[i]Call of Duty: Black Ops 2[/i][i]ifa 13[/i]
[i]Mass Effect 3: Wii Edition[/i]
[i]Family Party: 30 Great Games: Obstacle Arcade[/i]
[i]Ben 10: Omniverse[/i]
[i]Tank! Tank! Tank![/i]
[i]Tekken Tag Tournament 2[/i]

Digital

[i]Trine 2: Special Edition[/i]
[i]Toki Tori 2[/i]
[i]Nano Assault Neo[/i]

Titles before end of 2012

[i]Batman Arkham City: Armoured Edition[/i]
[i]Assassin's Creed 3[/i]
[i]Scribblenauts Unlimited[/i]
[i]Epic Mickey 2[/i]
[i]Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge[/i]
[i]Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper[/i]
[i]Darksiders 2[/i]
[i]Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed[/i]
[i]LEGO City Undercover[/i]
[i]NBA 2K13[/i]

Pikmin is 2013...

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Elmlea

I understood why the Wii could be a success. I got the concept of the waggly-thing and I understood why some people might get on with that who wouldn't pick up a normal controller, and why it could introduce some interesting concepts to normal games.

However, the Wii U is what; a Wii without the controller, with a giant pad that you can use as a sort-of handheld if you have one TV and your girlie wants to watch Corrie. You currently can't tie more than one controller to it, so there's no chance of revisiting Four Swords or Pac Man on the GameCube with 4 GBAs plugged into it.

So I don't get it. I got the DS, I got the Wii, I got the 3DS. I knew which were for me and which weren't, but I don't get the Wii U.

SELL IT TO ME.

Blue Swirl

Has it been confirmed that you can't have more than one screen-pad at once? Any who, here's the things I've been feverishly dreaming about.

- Dragging and dropping items on each other to make potions in Monster Hunter/Resident Evil.

- Holding the controller up to the screen to take pictures in Project Zero, or scan enemies/items in Metroid, or look for clues in Batman Arkham {Location}.

- Having the motion tracker from Aliens in your hands when playing Colonial Marines (this has been confirmed!)

- Pac Man VS! (You only needed one GBA for that, the three ghost players were on the TV.) ;)

- Rather than having to stop the game whilst playing Bioshock, you'd solve the hacking puzzles on the pad while the game proper kept going on the TV (no more hanging in mid-air whilst Splicers patiently wait for you to finish).

In other news, Xenoblade is eating my life. Send help.

EDIT: Elm, you totally stole my signature! ;)

mannaboy

I'd guess no more than one tablet will be able to connect at a time, Ninty have become experts in doing stuff half arsed. Still given that my twins are just turning 9 I'll be picking up one at some point, wonder if it will upscale Wii games?

EvilRedEye

I think they're trying to get it to work with two tablety controllers.

isanbard

Costs are prohibitive on two tablets though surely?

Last rumour I heard was that the nfc bit had been leaked in a demo trailer for Rayman. Going big on the skylanders style revenue boosting toys could be a canny move?

EvilRedEye

I think Sega were planning on going down that line. I don't mind it depending on the IP used. I mean I might buy some Kid Icarus AR cards, so I can hardly moan about, say, buying special figures for Kid Icarus Wii U.

regmcfly

There has been Â£50 rumours on a Wii U controller. Which isn't completely outrageous.

It's a Wii. Watch the Rayman trailer - everyone is still waggling. I'm going to predict this thing will sell like bananas, but it won't be called a Wii U because that fucked the 3DS over.

MattyJ

I'm quite interested to see what they show at E3.

[Deleted User]

I'm still in for some colourful HD games.

n0face

Does anybody know if there is a way to unlock all characters and tracks on Mario kart wii quickly or with cheat codes? Checked google quickly but can't see anything.

Dan

Last I heard they were working on multi controller support. I imagine if they can get that to work, it'll happen, and it'll just get bundled with one, with extras available for a bit less than a wii fit board or summit. Personally, I'm looking forward to a ninty box that can actually play technically demanding games. The gamecube sat between the PS2 and XBox for power, and then the Wii just fell right behind.

WorKid

I'm glad Nintendo are continuing to try something different. There's not much to differentiate the PS3 and the XBox and I suspect there are very few with both consoles (present company excepted, probably). That doesn't look likely to change, unless somehow Windows phones become very popular and they somehow manage to get an integrated experience.

With my Wii and XBox I've got a lot of things covered, I can play stuff with the kids and Nintendo classics on the Wii, and a bit more "hardcore" stuff on the XBox (Batman and COD and that).

Wii + HD + more power + better network integration = win in my book.

Has 3D been confirmed (or totally refuted) yet?

I suspect I'll be at a midnight launch somewhere when the Wii U comes out.

Blue Swirl

WorKid said:
Wii + HD + more power + better network integration = win in my book.

Has 3D been confirmed (or totally refuted) yet?

I suspect I'll be at a midnight launch somewhere when the Wii U comes out.

Seems like you're pretty much on the same page as me. The Wii U will be a day one purchase for me, barring some ridiculous price point.

Regarding 3D... maybe.

Yossarian

When the Wii U comes out I'm seriously considering getting a Wii.

WorKid

Aren't they like Â£50 now anyway?

Yossarian

Probably, but there's nothing like new hardware for flooding the second hand market and driving down prices.

krs

I fired up the ol' Gamecube this afternoon and had forgotten how tactile and clicky the controller is and how I like rotating the analogue sticks in their octagonal things making them all clacky and how I like running my index fingers over the smooth, rounded triggers whilst squidging them and making them click at the bottom and I rotate the sticks faster and faster and faster and squidge the triggers faster and faster and faster and my eyes widen more and more and more and I start drooling and snot bubbles pop from my nostrils and maniacal giggling turns into full on screaming and then the game's loaded and I go back to normal.

Choke

Haha! The only console to come with a build-in handle - to what purpose I am still unclear - but it all contributes to the GC's pudgy charms.

Dan

So you could look cool carrying around your playschool coloured cube in the hood 80s style? Loved the GC though. Brings back fond memories of res4, viewtiful joe, and the ninty classics. Not a scratch on the n64 though. Haven't even bought a Wii, tempted to get one now! Wish I'd got skyword sword limited edition when it was available. Just need 4 of them, gold plate/spray paint the wii gold, and you're set :D
I'll probably just get a Wii U and then a load of Wii games as the launch line up might not be up to much.

Zelda on the Wii U will rock no doubt. I can imagine the second screen being put to great use, and the graphics could be amazing. Will be quite a wait though I imagine..

Spock

The circle pads gots to go. I can get over everything else but not that. Proper console needs proper sticks and that's final! 'Wii(L) U' all still buy one if that's not sorted before launch? (hohohohohoho)

Blue Swirl

I totally hadn't noticed that they were circle pads rather than full-blown analogue sticks. Hmm.

I think the Wii U will still be a day one purchase for me. Stuff like the motion tracker in Colonial Marines being on the pad screen sounds like total win to me. Fingers crossed we get some better analogue sticks before then.

EDIT: I'll chuck you a friend request on my 3DS later.

Wookienopants

Problem I see is that Nintendo are pushing the fact that it's as powerful as the 360 and Ps3 just as we get ready to launch to a new generation of more powerful hardware. This would've been fine 4/5 years ago but NOW? It needs to be MORE powerful than the current gen in order to compete.

Also Elm made a very valid point about Aliens and (I hope he doesn't mind me paraphrasing this on here) the whole tension thing between having your pulse rifle in two hands and having to lower it to bring up the motion tracker in one hand, rendering you vunerable to attack would be totally lost by being able to have it constantly at hand.Â

Plus... Fuck Nintendo

Plornt

So... Blockbuster have released a list of 25 Wii U games, some which have not been revealed in public yet.

Aliens: Colonial Marines
Assassinâ€™s Creed
Batman: Arkham City
Darksiders II
Dirt 3
Formula 1 All Stars
Game Party
Ghost Recon Online
Just Dance 4
Killer Freaks from Outer Space
Marvel Super Heroes
Metro: Last Light
Monsters Party
New Super Mario Brothers Wii
Ninja Gaiden 3
Pikmin
Rabbids Party Land
Raving Rabbids
Rayman Legends
Shield Pose
Splinter Cell 5
Sports Connection
Tekken
Your Shape 2013
Zombie

I_R

Get ready for publishers being surprised that their ports of old 360 games don't sell.

Spock

Cheers swirl! Too much Ubi on that list. I was one of those suckers who bought Splinter cell on wii: an unplayable disaster. Shield pose? Game party? Your shape? Sport connection? Come on ninty!

regmcfly

Ubisoft doin dat launch day

regmcfly

Where's the first party stuff? I thought they 'learned' from the 3DS launch...

Spock

If they preview a new proper mario or zelda (literally even if it's just a high def minute of gameplay footage) they'll get away with E3 and the hardcore ninty fans will probably grit their teeth through months of tweaked 360 ports (like I.R said).

Frosty

HD Wind Waker probably.

JRPC

Frosty wrote:

HD Wind Waker probably.

Actually, that's not a bad idea. I'd go for some of that. Would look lovely in HD no doubt.

I can also see me getting Batman with it for whatever little gimmick they throw in, even though Ive played it to death on the 360.

I take it they mean AC 3, right?

Could 'Zombie' be resi 6 maybe?

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