The 3DS always looked like an unfinished devkit to me though? The two tiered shape, screen scratching, nerfed battery and extra slide pad thing just re-enforce that idea to me. 
I'll just hold out till the finished 'Lite' unit comes out as I did with the last one. The games aren't going anywhere in a hurry.

Where are you up to?

Luigi's Mansion looks great, exactly what I was hoping for.

mk64 wrote:

Umm I spent twenty minutes trying to find chickens and put them in a pen then I physically dropped my 3ds by accident, warped the hinge before snapping it back into place and looking up at the gods! It's still alive. Not sure about always starting from the woods though. Why not where I left off??

Limitations of the N64, I guess. If you're up for mapping the Lost Woods, there are short cuts to most of the locations in the world.

mk64 wrote:

wait, the lost woods go to everywhere? so far they've led to some dead end where they want me to wear a mask? Something about beauty.

The trick to navigating the lost woods is to listen out for the music; if it gets quieter you'll get punted back to the start. There's shortcuts a plenty in the woods.

And that's all the hints I'm giving you.

There are shortcuts in the Lost Woods but they're not all immediately accessible. As you progress, you'll find it easier to get around generally anyway... Default start point for now is always the forest, unless you find a temple, in which case you can walk into the entrance and then save/quit and that will be your start point when you resume.

Sounds like you got the hang of the chicken thing, though you need to speak to the girl and then round them all up and then speak to her again.

The mask thing is a sidequest which begins elsewhere.

The windmill becomes important later. Your fairy should be nagging you to go somewhere...

Fairies appear at all sorts of random places throughout the game, though you'll learn in time where you can reliably find them if you need to.

Time works in a simple binary day/night cycle. Importantly, when you're in Kakariko Village and some other places, time will stand still so, if it's night, currently you have to go to Hyrule Field (e.g.) until sunrise happens and then back into Kakariko Village, to make it daytime. It becomes important as there are parts of the game that you can only do at night and vice versa. Also, the whole time issue gets a little more interesting further on...

Basically, the further you progress, the easier it becomes to control many aspects of your environment and how you move around in it.

yeah i got to meet saria at some megatemple (big triforce on teh ground sounds like its going to be where the end is!) and learnt her song. I've got three tunes now i can bang out. I know I need to meet some royalty before i can progress through the gate. Navi isn't helping much more right now though. Still unsure if i did the chicken thing or not, how do i know if that was secessful? Also, just want to double check, i found a spider on a wall and then got a token, went into one house and the dude said that when i check items that there's a number next to it, thats how many there are. Am I to understand that there are four in that AREA or in total anywhere in the whole map? Also, did the spiders only appear at night? I'm sure i didn't see them in the day. And will it be obvious that i need to go back somewhere at night/day to progress?

sorry for the questions

gamefaqs has things in a linear format as if they are doing the playthrough. On an open world game like this its not so helpful trying to read though walls of text. If it offends you so much i'll take it to pm.

take it to PM if you want... I'm happy to give you pointers if needed.

mk64 wrote:

gamefaqs has things in a linear format as if they are doing the playthrough. On an open world game like this its not so helpful trying to read though walls of text. If it offends you so much i'll take it to pm.

It doesn't offend me at all, the game is linear as hell with a lot of extra stuff you can do here or there and although I'm not it's biggest fan (I find it to be heavily overrated) I just think you're robbing yourself of the joy of just going with the flow and learning the optional stuff as and when.

I mean, you're effectively asking questions to all the bits that I found so fun in the game, precisely because I had to figure them out.

Whatever floats your boat though, it just seems odd to me.

Aye, fair enough. Wasn't saying you were doing it wrong or anything. Enjoy it regardless, I played it for an hour on the 3DS before trading it. I just don't think it is that good, one of those games that has been placed on a pedestal for various reasons.

yes, i know the speedrun is 7 hours and so i'm expecting this to take 40hours or so.. i'm barely scratching the surface. Loving it but finding traversing slow so i'm rolling from place to place. I want epona so i can ride around quicker.

Anyone tried the Heroes of Ruin demo from the eShop yet?

I had a quick go at lunchtime and after a few error messages managed to get into a 4 player online game with randoms. Reminded me a bit of Phantasy Star Online. I nearly went for a £25 preorder with Play.com but their price is back up to £30 so I will probably wait for the reviews to come in. I've got plenty of other games to get on with anyway.

reg you beast.

I'll get the demo now. ooh, i'll wait till my next save in Oot. Found the chicken.

Mal0wner wrote:

Anyone tried the Heroes of Ruin demo from the eShop yet?

Aye, it's got promise. I think I managed to end up in a game on my own, so I didn't last very long, especially with those spiders that have the poison shots that they never seem to miss with.

It's a bit of a ball ache that the demo is six uses only, when every other demo I've nabbed has been 25 or up.