igorgetmeabrain wrote:"I'm not paying my fair share in tax because they'll only piss it up the wall anyway". Srsly?
Tempy wrote:Has he been 'caught' though, if he hasn't done anything illegal? I find it funny that people expect comedians and such to be for the people on stuff like this. Michael Floppy Fringe Skippy Guy was seen eyeing up a ridiculous car a few years back but he's still regarded as the common deonminator because he makes jokesa bout man drawers and getting on the bus. Do people expect that Jimmy Carr was really down with the proles just because he made some jokes about the government being shit? These guys live on beds of money. Ho-hum. I'm not getting into the moral side of things, just the fact that the public still get shocked that a comedian who sells out arena tours isn't living in a a flat in Bristol or something.
revelthedog wrote:Tempy wrote:Has he been 'caught' though, if he hasn't done anything illegal? I find it funny that people expect comedians and such to be for the people on stuff like this. Michael Floppy Fringe Skippy Guy was seen eyeing up a ridiculous car a few years back but he's still regarded as the common deonminator because he makes jokesa bout man drawers and getting on the bus. Do people expect that Jimmy Carr was really down with the proles just because he made some jokes about the government being shit? These guys live on beds of money. Ho-hum. I'm not getting into the moral side of things, just the fact that the public still get shocked that a comedian who sells out arena tours isn't living in a a flat in Bristol or something.
If that is the case then why is he back tracking and saying he is leaving the scheme. He got caught doing something that while legal, is going to effect how the public view him. So I stand by say 'he got caught'.
Tempy wrote:But plenty of others have been 'caught' and not lynched because the public is a fickle beast. Carr's job means that he has to placate the gibbering masses who can't grasp the fact that he has done something legal and been branded, despite the fact there are probably a large swathe of comedians and TV personalities shuffling their feet and staring wistuflly at the sky because they've done the same shit. I'm not advocating it but I'm not sure Carr needs singling out either.revelthedog wrote:If that is the case then why is he back tracking and saying he is leaving the scheme. He got caught doing something that while legal, is going to effect how the public view him. So I stand by say 'he got caught'.Tempy wrote:Has he been 'caught' though, if he hasn't done anything illegal? I find it funny that people expect comedians and such to be for the people on stuff like this. Michael Floppy Fringe Skippy Guy was seen eyeing up a ridiculous car a few years back but he's still regarded as the common deonminator because he makes jokesa bout man drawers and getting on the bus. Do people expect that Jimmy Carr was really down with the proles just because he made some jokes about the government being shit? These guys live on beds of money. Ho-hum. I'm not getting into the moral side of things, just the fact that the public still get shocked that a comedian who sells out arena tours isn't living in a a flat in Bristol or something.
Unlikely wrote:Those of you moaning about this are really missing the point. Without going into detail, I'm paid through a system that perfectly legally means I don't pay the same amount of tax I would if I was "normal" PAYE. Should I stop using this system because boo fucking hoo the economy? Before you say yes, the answer is no, because that would be stupid. The difference it would make to the economy is basically fuck all, and the difference it would make to me would be significant. Again, if the government doesn't like people doing this (and oh my would it be interesting to see fully audited accounts for all politicians) then they should change the law to stop it being possible. Igor's argument that "clever lawyers" would just find another loophole is stupid.
That's probably what the benefit cheats say.Unlikely wrote:The difference it would make to the economy is basically fuck all,
Lord_Griff wrote:Top 20% of earners pay over 80% of the income tax collected in the uk (the top 10% pay over 50%).
Mod74 wrote:People who earn a lot pay a lot non-shocker.Lord_Griff wrote:Top 20% of earners pay over 80% of the income tax collected in the uk (the top 10% pay over 50%).
revelthedog wrote:I'm guessing that you are a contractor of some sort then. I know a lot about this as well and how tax can work. I'm guessing you still pay more than the 1% the dodgers pay.
Wasn't me that brought up the end result for the public finances.Unlikely wrote:Correct on both counts. I_R, this is not the same as cheating on benefits.
Brooks wrote:Griff none of that was achieved in a total social vacuum.
Brooks wrote:Also the "they'll just fuck off" line underestimates the draw of certain cultural factors that make people stick around even when the state's grab on one's pennies rises.
There's not really any skill barrier to the last 7 or 8 years of digging a ditch like you'd find in a doctor's study path. So the skill is rarer and better rewarded.Mod74 wrote:Who said studying for 18 years was any harder than digging a ditch for 18 years, btw.
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