Film/Video Discussion Thread - The Bear and Badger

three1ne

As was You Were Never Really There. Fucking special that.

ShabbyMcCrabby

JRPC wrote:

I continue to defend WoW.

Its no Moon obvs, but it was I think reasonable popcorn fare. I'd take it a thousand times over a Transformers or even a Jurassic World.

I think i've got an affinity for Jones' stuff. I didn't think Mute was the trainwreck many considered it neither.

I haven't watched all of Warcraft yet but from what I saw I thought there was quite a bit of nice direction in there. Some interesting shots and well put together sequences that were let down by a funky story and some interesting acting, especially by the main guy who seems to be taking the piss.

Dark Soldier

three1ne wrote:

As was You Were Never Really There. Fucking special that.

My man, fucking adore that film. Lynne Ramsey is the best

The Daddy

A Quiet Place. Enjoyed it. Felt more like Sci-Fi thriller than horror. Used my noise cancelling headphones for immersion, worked well.

The Daddy

Decided to have a look at the IMDb reviews of A Quiet Place. Top lols!

ShabbyMcCrabby

Dark Soldier wrote:

three1ne wrote:

As was You Were Never Really There. Fucking special that.

My man, fucking adore that film. Lynne Ramsey is the best

That's the one I was trying to think of the other day.

Gremill

The Daddy wrote:

Decided to have a look at the IMDb reviews of A Quiet Place. Top lols!

How so?

The Daddy

This is the first one I came across:

Spoiler:

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][snip] I will list a few of my observations below. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]1. They go to a waterfall where they can scream as loud as they want and the monsters can't hear them. Why not live there? They could fish and collect drinking water near the river. The monsters would probably stay away from the area since the sound of the falls would impede their hunting ability. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]2. When taking a walk, does anyone seriously let the youngest child of the group walk behind them. Why on earth would they let a young boy walk a hundred yards behind the adults in such a dangerous situation. They can't even correct the boy if he makes any mistakes, and indeed this results in his death. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]3. How on earth did they get the corn planted? By hand? After 400+ days you wouldn't see corn in nice little neat rows like it was planted by farm equipment. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]4. Since the monsters can't hear you if there is a loud sound nearby, why not bring out one of the downstairs speakers and blast something 24/7 on one of the nearby trees or on top of the house? The monsters would get used to the sound and leave the area alone, leaving the family to talk in peace. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]5. What human with a brain wouldn't consider making a soundproof room. They could go to the city, get a bunch of foam, blankets, pillows, whatever, and plaster it around one of the larger rooms until they created an effective sound barrier. In the movie, a single mattress pulled over a walkway is an effective sound shield. Imagine how effective they could be if they put some ACTUAL effort into soundproofing the room. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]6. Apparently the monsters can be killed by shotguns? The entire military was wiped out, with all the weaponry of the finest military in the world rendered useless against the monsters, but Emily Blunt shoots one in the head and kills it? Right. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]7. The mother, Emily Blunt, is pregnant. Why would you bring a newborn child into this world, when the child will surely jeopardize the safety of the entire family. You know that babies cry right? Pull out or use a condom. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]8. If the monsters can hear the faintest sound from far way, why do they have trouble hearing sounds that even humans can decipher at close range. A baby crying, a mother's heavy breathing, a persons heartbeat. All of these things would be loud to a creature that hear can hear footstep from a half mile away. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]9. The mother's water breaks and she starts having the baby. She tries to contain her gasps and walks downstairs only to step on a nail on the stairway. She lets out a sound and falls, causing the monsters to hunt her down and nearly kill her and the newborn child. However, just in time, she is saved by fireworks designed to distract the monsters. Instead of removing the nail like any sane person, they just ignore it and leave it sticking up on the stairs for someone else to step on. Dumb. [/font]

jdanielp

The Daddy wrote:

This is the first one I came across:

Spoiler:

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][snip] I will list a few of my observations below. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]1. They go to a waterfall where they can scream as loud as they want and the monsters can't hear them. Why not live there? They could fish and collect drinking water near the river. The monsters would probably stay away from the area since the sound of the falls would impede their hunting ability. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]2. When taking a walk, does anyone seriously let the youngest child of the group walk behind them. Why on earth would they let a young boy walk a hundred yards behind the adults in such a dangerous situation. They can't even correct the boy if he makes any mistakes, and indeed this results in his death. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]3. How on earth did they get the corn planted? By hand? After 400+ days you wouldn't see corn in nice little neat rows like it was planted by farm equipment. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]4. Since the monsters can't hear you if there is a loud sound nearby, why not bring out one of the downstairs speakers and blast something 24/7 on one of the nearby trees or on top of the house? The monsters would get used to the sound and leave the area alone, leaving the family to talk in peace. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]5. What human with a brain wouldn't consider making a soundproof room. They could go to the city, get a bunch of foam, blankets, pillows, whatever, and plaster it around one of the larger rooms until they created an effective sound barrier. In the movie, a single mattress pulled over a walkway is an effective sound shield. Imagine how effective they could be if they put some ACTUAL effort into soundproofing the room. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]6. Apparently the monsters can be killed by shotguns? The entire military was wiped out, with all the weaponry of the finest military in the world rendered useless against the monsters, but Emily Blunt shoots one in the head and kills it? Right. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]7. The mother, Emily Blunt, is pregnant. Why would you bring a newborn child into this world, when the child will surely jeopardize the safety of the entire family. You know that babies cry right? Pull out or use a condom. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]8. If the monsters can hear the faintest sound from far way, why do they have trouble hearing sounds that even humans can decipher at close range. A baby crying, a mother's heavy breathing, a persons heartbeat. All of these things would be loud to a creature that hear can hear footstep from a half mile away. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]9. The mother's water breaks and she starts having the baby. She tries to contain her gasps and walks downstairs only to step on a nail on the stairway. She lets out a sound and falls, causing the monsters to hunt her down and nearly kill her and the newborn child. However, just in time, she is saved by fireworks designed to distract the monsters. Instead of removing the nail like any sane person, they just ignore it and leave it sticking up on the stairs for someone else to step on. Dumb. [/font]

It's a shame that they didn't reason any of these (and many more) issues through when finalising the script. It could have been a lovely little film...

JonB

To be fair, I had exactly the same thoughts (the ones in the spoiler) while watching it. I really didn't think it worked as a premise, or wasn't properly thought through. The second half of it was still decent, because you could forget all that and just watch it unfold, but it never felt like it had a coherent logic even on its own terms.

Dark Soldier

Its a very, very dumb movie and any logic instant falls down when you take as much as a glancing look at it. The tension is utterly forced and shite throughout. Its a poor film.

mistercrayon

I thought it was ace. For the whole time I was properly absorbed in the quiet and the tension and knowing there was gonna be inevitably some disaster meant the film was pretty good t keeping me on the edge of my seat and had me on its page through out.

You do have to buy into what its selling and if anything pops you out then yeah I would suspect it’s easy to dismantle.

Dark Soldier

I just like films to fit their own internal narrative/world and make some actual sense.

I can switch my brain off for clear nonsense films such as Transformers and others, but this is a film that clearly believed it was creating something fairly smart, and it fell flat on that front.

regmcfly

Whereas I have a 14 page document to show you on the failings of the internal logic of Transformers

digi

regmcfly wrote:

Whereas I have a 14 page document to show you on the failings of the internal logic of Transformers

Post it for me, i think there terrible and wanna confirm im right!

mistercrayon

Dark Soldier wrote:

I just like films to fit their own internal narrative/world and make some actual sense.

I can switch my brain off for clear nonsense films such as Transformers and others, but this is a film that clearly believed it was creating something fairly smart, and it fell flat on that front.

I’m not entirely sure I agree that it was trying to be that clever. To me it felt like they chose what they needed to to convey what they needed to.

I mean if it was really meant to be a smart movie.

Spoiler:

Dark Soldier

Yes because its from idiot man from Office US

bad_hair_day

For it's all it's 'nonsense' there were some nice touches too. Soft sand paths, sign language coms and good old human ingenuity.
Also didn't try to subvert expectations just to be a dick.

jdanielp

Dark Soldier wrote:

I just like films to fit their own internal narrative/world and make some actual sense.

I can switch my brain off for clear nonsense films such as Transformers and others, but this is a film that clearly believed it was creating something fairly smart, and it fell flat on that front.

Indeed. I'm bemused by how many people (including critics) seemed to accept its belief that it was fairly smart.

tigersgogrrr

Is it on Amazon or Netflix yet?

Dark Soldier

Ghostland (aka the film that disfigured an actress):

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6195094/

Laugier's best since Martyrs. That's not to say its anything beyond serviceable as Martyrs is the first masterpiece of the genre since Angst. Mother and her two daughters move into the property left by their dead aunt only to be attacked the night they move in. Many years later the daughters reunite at the house and shit goes weird.

Some wonderful brutality in places, two very good central performances, but in general it tries a bit too hard and never really hits any great heights. It was okay.

djchump

This looks like conscious funtimes from AnnaPurna:

NB - checking out Director Boots Riley's music here "The Coup": https://open.spotify.com/artist/4IvS1ZZ5nyiNMheybfx3Hf?si=PiRAErnSSG68Oej2iSH6DA

Dark Soldier

Finally gonna watch The Godfather

The Daddy

Enjoy!

regmcfly

He'll be nearly done.

Dark Soldier

regmcfly wrote:

He'll be nearly done.

I watched the Bobby Robson documentary first, about half hour into The Godfather now

poprock

I liked the sequel.

Dark Soldier

There's a Bryan Robson documentary?!

WorKid

Ha ha

poprock

I’ll get me coat.

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