Shaken, knots turd.

Y’know, this is a lukewarm take but bear with me …

I’d try making future Bond movies period pieces. Set them in the past, where the character belongs. ’60s Bond. ’70s Bond, ’80s Bond. It gives you license to admit that he’s a misogynist, racist, murdering shit and just roll with that. All you have to do is change the perspective a little – introduce some progressive female characters, flesh out the characters of different races and nationalities properly, and let the audience see that Bond’s behaviour, whilst effective, is crappy and dated. It could be a lot of fun re-doing the old cheesy spy shit with modern budgets and production values.

poprock wrote:

Y’know, this is a lukewarm take but bear with me … I’d try making future Bond movies period pieces. Set them in the past, where the character belongs. ’60s Bond. ’70s Bond, ’80s Bond. It gives you license to admit that he’s a misogynist, racist, murdering shit and just roll with that. All you have to do is change the perspective a little – introduce some progressive female characters, flesh out the characters of different races and nationalities properly, and let the audience see that Bond’s behaviour, whilst effective, is crappy and dated. It could be a lot of fun re-doing the old cheesy spy shit with modern budgets and production values.

i've thought the same. Bond in the modern day is boring, and too similar to any other modern action movie. but set it in a period where having a basic mobile phone would be mind blowing tech and I think you could have a lot more fun with it.

Jennie Bond - Casino Royale Correspondant.

Tarantino wanted to set Casino Royale in the same time period when Fleming wrote it, nixed by the producers.

I’m with Tempy, lady 007 is a big plot point, but isn’t the replacement for the series.

I went on a date last night. We watched The Dead Don't Die. Keeping in mind that I have only watched at maximum 1 film per year since I was a teenager, I can state with certainty that this was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I feel utterly baffled that at how people were laughing. \I didn't get close to raising a smile even once.

RedDave2 wrote:

First off, Bond is the central character. The series is flat and has been for a while but its centered on this one guy. If thats not working for ypu, don't make any more movies.

Bond is still the central character.

There’s been two(?) decent Bond movies since the 90s out of what, eight or nine? God knows how many before that are any cop. It’s not a high number though.

Watched It Comes at Night last night. Tense but fairly forgettable I thought.

I'd rather see new roles written for women and black people instead of body swaps. Shrugs. 

I can see the woman angle bringing something different but what would be different about a black person in a modern spy yarn? 

Look  at Dark Tower. Crap film I know but Elba was up to the task. Only thing was casting him gave away the fact that the Roland/Detta thing was being dispensed with - so it's one of the poorer examples of plonking a black actor into a role. 

As for Bond as it's a modernised version of the original Cold War era role then colour is irrelevant; though the original role having a black person cast would be ludicrous.

Bond franchise has ample room for expansion - who is 005 or 003, or 009? Different type of agent for different missions. A woman could easily be slotted in that way and take the franchise into entirely new territory with scope for Marvel style cross meshing.

But what do I know?

I hope she gets one of those bra guns. Empowering women and all that.

Apparantly Bond girl is not acceptable now. Bond women.

Precisely.

It's a load of old bollocks.

If my experience with government IT is anything to go by, civil servants will have security hardened Windows hybrid devices running approved applications except for ministers who squeal and stamp their feet until holes are punched in cyber security measures by having non corporate devices using non-approved applications.

Tempy wrote:

Watched It Comes at Night last night. Tense but fairly forgettable I thought.

Any good?