Thread of the Dead - The Bear and Badger

Verecocha

Can’t be happy to use the media, if you aren’t happy to have the media use you. Sad for her family and her dog.

Dark Soldier

The media in this country are absolute fucking scum from top to bottom tbf.

LivDiv

Yeah the media hit her partner in the head with a lamp.

nick_md

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

Diluted Dante

LivDiv wrote:

I mean, we will never know for sure because there will be no trial now but it is my opinion based on the police reports she was a violent domestic abuser. The courts obviously felt she was a threat as she was denied access to her partner.

Yeah, I'm with Liv on this. She'd been treated horrendously by the media prior to this, but at the point you're hitting someone over the head with a lamp, I have very little sympathy.

Verecocha

nick_md wrote:

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

Certainly don’t want her or anyone dead, nor am I making light of it. But at the same time if indeed she did commit suicide because of media pressure I have no sympathy if that caused it, as she was happy to use the media for all its worth to put her where she was, a leader of gossip and celebrity shite.

yourfavouriteuncle

nick_md wrote:

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

Me too and mine was often fucking horrendous and petrifying but I’d still rather she had got herself sorted somehow.

yourfavouriteuncle

She very clearly had heavy heavy heavy alcohol and mental health issues. The media pressure stuff idgi?

LivDiv

nick_md wrote:

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

I dont think she deserved to die and I'm not making light of it so appologies if it came off that way.
I just dont think it is especially sad and find it odd that this is all the media's fault.

I feel takes would be very different if this was a man under the same circumstances.

nick_md

Yeah, I look on my ex partner with sympathy, she's clearly an angry and unhappy woman for a lot of the time. It can't be pleasant being that riled up all the time. I'm not excusing the actions, I hate her and will never speak to her again if I can help it, but I hate to think of her in pain or suffering. It's odd, admittedly.

There are no winners in this Flack thing, if everything is true then she clearly had issues, her partner suffered, she probably hated herself and knew what she was doing and hated it, but couldn't stop for whatever reason.

nick_md

Fair play Liv, tbh I haven't read any media about it, I'm only reading this forum atm.

Tempy

I don’t think it’s entirely the media’s fault, but I am also critical of the way the media can stick the knife in for weeks then just pretend like it never did anything - including deleting negative articles after news of the death

afgavinstan

I'm not forgetting the weird fling with Harry Styles, who was 17 when she was 35 and was treated as a bit lol when it absolutely was not.

It's all just a big grim mess. I feel for her family and close ones.

Dark Soldier

Or the way they treated Sir Ant after his drink driving ting compared to other lesser celebs. They're all cunts.

nick_md

They are indeed all cunts.

Diluted Dante

Tempy wrote:

I don’t think it’s entirely the media’s fault, but I am also critical of the way the media can stick the knife in for weeks then just pretend like it never did anything - including deleting negative articles after news of the death

Fuck The Sun.

Bob

nick_md wrote:

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

And you know this is happening day in day out without it being a
Massive deal
For
Unfamous people ...

yourfavouriteuncle

Bob wrote:

nick_md wrote:

I was in an abusive relationship, both emotionally/mentally and physically, I still wouldn't want her dead or make light of it.

And you know this is happening day in day out without it being a Massive deal For Unfamous people ...

I’m pretty certain it’s a massive deal for those in such relationships, however famous.

nick_md

I don't know the point Bob is making wrt my comment.

Bob

To clarify I’m sure not everyone who assaulted their partner tops themselves for clarity

Bob

And for context we’re talking about the media I’m sure it’s a big deal for them but it’s not making national news.

nick_md

Ah ok I get ya.

Brooks

Idk what is says about me or the fracturing of media consumption generally that I literally had to Google this person. I'm tuning out way more than I thought apparently.

Lord_Griff

Diluted Dante wrote:

Tempy wrote:

I don’t think it’s entirely the media’s fault, but I am also critical of the way the media can stick the knife in for weeks then just pretend like it never did anything - including deleting negative articles after news of the death

Fuck The Sun.

Tssssssssssssss.

b0r1s

Brooks wrote:

Idk what is says about me or the fracturing of media consumption generally that I literally had to Google this person. I'm tuning out way more than I thought apparently.

Not such a bad thing.

LarryDavid

Can't say I was any kind of fan but killing yourself alone on Valentine's Day is just very sad, regardless of whether you liked the lowbrow fluff she presented on TV.

MattyJ

Agreed. That it reached such a place of sadness, desperation and loneliness that she thought this was the only choice she had left is terrible.

davyK

She had a taste for younger men which I thought was odd - but then plenty of people have a taste for youthful looks.

She was clearly unwell.

[Deleted User]

LivDiv wrote:

The courts obviously felt she was a threat as she was denied access to her partner.

That’s standard for domestics. Treat an unknown risk as a high risk. It’s not necessarily because she was assessed as a danger. And, for clarity, I’m not saying that she wasn’t dangerous. We just don’t (and may never) have enough information.

FranticPea

I have absolutely no idea who this is either. Norra clue.

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