The British Politics Thread
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If you believe in left wing policies, economic fairness, social cohesion kindness and so on, you need to vote for someone who won't even try to make these things happen. Makes total sense.
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The most disturbing thing is how many supporters May still has. It's not healthy for those with nice houses and comfortable mortgages to contest becoming slightly worse-off for the much greater good.
They genuinely see Corbyn as dangerous, but socially, not militarily. They claim the latter as a smokescreen. I suspect their real fear's of the increased competition were agency common. That's the feeling I get from 'em — that they're superior to us proles and deserve their places higher up the ladder.
Grenfell poshos with their ‘we've worked very hard to live here’ nonsense. They haven't a clue. -
That's some S-tier editing.
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Escape wrote:The most disturbing thing is how many supporters May still has. It's not healthy for those with nice houses and comfortable mortgages to contest becoming slightly worse-off for the much greater good.
They genuinely see Corbyn as dangerous, but socially, not militarily. They claim the latter as a smokescreen. I suspect their real fear's of the increased competition were agency common. That's the feeling I get from 'em — that they're superior to us proles and deserve their places higher up the ladder.
Grenfell poshos with their ‘we've worked very hard to live here’ nonsense. They haven't a clue.
FWIW, it strikes me that, at least in London, many of those with nice houses and comfortable mortgages also have children who are fucked, and this overrides any concerns about being worse off. -
Escape wrote:That's some S-tier editing.
Thought you meant shit tier. Wondered what you classed as good. But yeah even if you don't like the content, the editing is worth marvelling at. -
Yossarian wrote:FWIW, it strikes me that, at least in London, many of those with nice houses and comfortable mortgages also have children who are fucked, and this overrides any concerns about being worse off.
As true as that is, the best way to help their kids is through a return to free education and properly affordable housing. Which is what we had just fifteen years ago. Clinging to the wreckage just because you've a better grip than the poorest isn't a good plan.
Are those people really invested in May's policies as a force for the common good? I dunno, to be honest. I wonder if lots of people are venting their own frustrations in life via right-wing support. Different kind of misery to poverty, but a similar reaction in reverse.
Whatever it is, I wish they'd stop voting for shitness. -
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Oscar-level in the '90s.
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It's the remnants of Thatcher's TINA. You don't swim against the current of the market, because it leads to the Soviet Union. Even now that going with the current is clearly leading to a plummet down a big waterfall and getting smashed to bits on the rocks below, you're supposed to keep going with it and hope someone builds a dam or something. I haven't really thought this metaphor through.Escape wrote:
As true as that is, the best way to help their kids is through a return to free education and properly affordable housing. Which is what we had just fifteen years ago. Clinging to the wreckage just because you've a better grip than the poorest isn't a good plan. Are those people really invested in May's policies as a force for the common good? I dunno, to be honest. I wonder if lots of people are venting their own frustrations in life via right-wing support. Different kind of misery to poverty, but a similar reaction in reverse. Whatever it is, I wish they'd stop voting for shitness.Yossarian wrote:FWIW, it strikes me that, at least in London, many of those with nice houses and comfortable mortgages also have children who are fucked, and this overrides any concerns about being worse off. -
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Kinda loving the way they commentariat are willing to criticise Cotbyn over everything st the minute. He went to Glastonbury! He read poetry! His favourite book is Ulysses!
Then they somehow contort it to suggest his "for the many" stance is suspect because the working classes can't afford festivals (bullshit) don't read poetry (demonstrably untrue given the vast wealth of working class poetry) and can't enjoy books that have been enshrined in the canon of academia (assume that's been suggested by people who've never opened Ulysses).
Elsewhere, a millionaire trader sabotaged our future through confidence won over his everyman pint swigging facade. -
He went to Glastonbury! He read poetry! His favourite book is Ulysses!
To be fair Glasto does seem pretty fucking stale. -
Hi guys. This is your periodic reminder that Corbyn lost the election against the worst, most cack-handed campaign and opponent you're ever likely to see in your lifetimes.
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So what you're saying is we should stop caring about him and also be totally fine with people using him as a way to attack the culture of people with lower incomes?
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What he did was overturn polls suggesting a huge Tory majority, against decades of right-wing promoting media that had really slammed it's foot on the nutjob pedal recently.
Public leaning doesn't change over night but in 6 weeks he made a substantial shift in thinking. -
Yeah it's a big accomplishment, better than I expected. He crippled the government and is likely to get another shot at power very soon. Given the circumstances that will create a new election (presumably the Tories being unable to govern over the mess they've created), he's likely to win outright. Still, he does need those (googles working-class hobbies) Cooper's Hill Cheese Rollers on his side.
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The government, the headbangers and the tabloids are in the process of a huge pivot back to some form of common sense, or something that outwardly resembles it. See this from today's Mail. Fuck linking to it.
I voted for Brexit but we MUST slow the process down, writes LORD WOLFSON, the chief executive of Next
As a passionate Leave supporter and the boss of Next, an international retailer with 49,000 employees, Lord Wolfson has closely studied the possible effects of leaving the EU.
He believes it can spark an economic renaissance for our country, as long as we don’t drive dangerously on the road to Brexit...
Think of a coach hurtling down the motorway. Fifty-two passengers wanted to make the journey, the other 48 didn’t. A couple of the 52 are screaming at the driver to go faster. A handful of the 48 are shouting at her to turn back.
May won't be PM for the next election. And the Tories seem well-aware that sticking Boris Johnson or some other tarnished pillock at the helm isn't going to give them the spur they need. They're looking to rejuvenate and find some new face to give their brand a face lift. I'm also less convinced than I was that the Tories are going to go to war with each other now. They'll find a compromise position along the lines of the quote above, and will stick to it for fear of a socialist Marxist anarchist turning Britain into Venuzuela (or whatever it is they think the consequences will be of electing a non-Thatcherite). -
Where do I catch this MAGIC BUS?Come with g if you want to live... -
WE WANT...A SHRUBBERY!Come with g if you want to live...
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Steer clear for a bit. They're having some issues on board.g.man wrote:Where do I catch this MAGIC BUS?
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