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That Churchill guy is going to be shite I tells ya."Plus he wore shorts like a total cunt" - Bob
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I STILL DEMAND AN ANSWERDon't wank. Zinc in your sperms
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You can google where New Labour targeted their education spending as easily as I can.Armitage_Shankburn wrote:monkey wrote:
What are the structural issues you wanted him to solve? They ploughed loads of dosh into education.LarryDavid wrote:Not difficult to be better than the three PM’s since, two yawning personality vacuum’s and one just an all round vacuum in every regard (who modelled himself on Tone of course). Since he never actually tackled the structural issues that led to child poverty his slight achievements in that field have been rapidly wiped away too. Like everything else he did, the illusion of change whilst a cowardice to face the political ramifications that would result from real change. Nice suits though.
Was this money well spent? Or did they simply pay heads and deputy heads more to hit targets, continuing and perpetrating a policy of targets and measurable progress at all costs that started under Major?
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Armitage_Shankburn wrote:monkey wrote:
What are the structural issues you wanted him to solve? They ploughed loads of dosh into education.LarryDavid wrote:Not difficult to be better than the three PM’s since, two yawning personality vacuum’s and one just an all round vacuum in every regard (who modelled himself on Tone of course). Since he never actually tackled the structural issues that led to child poverty his slight achievements in that field have been rapidly wiped away too. Like everything else he did, the illusion of change whilst a cowardice to face the political ramifications that would result from real change. Nice suits though.
Was this money well spent? Or did they simply pay heads and deputy heads more to hit targets, continuing and perpetrating a policy of targets and measurable progress at all costs that started under Major?
Targets are a good way of measuring performance and determining the effectiveness of new policies. The problem is they chose the wrong targets.
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Oh yes.SpaceGazelle wrote:That Churchill guy is going to be shite I tells ya.Come with g if you want to live... -
Nice bit about Boris.
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Send messageJames O'B tha fucking GOAT.
My man has had to spend the last 2.5 years slewing brexiteers live on the radio on the regular."Let me tell you, when yung Rouj had his Senna and Mansell Scalextric, Frank was the goddamn Professor X of F1." -
Anyone seen the Mail ad for their extracts from the latest Corbyn smear book?
Fucking hell, sinister music and everything. You’d think it was a book about Himmler or Eichmann or something. -
Trouble is people like my mum buy into. That fucking conservative NHS ad was on while she visited my house, which made me angry and I said so (the balls on the tories to advertise giving cash to NHS after spending 8 years defunding them to the point of ruin) and all she would say is "but we can't have Corbyn I'm charge, he's terrible, he'll be worse" etc etc. Couldn't tell her otherwise. It's insane.I'm falling apart to songs about hips and hearts... -
Can’t have some sinister lefty actually funding the service.
Still staggered by that ad, it’s like one of those hysterical ‘attack’ ads you get in America around election time.
“Jeremy Corbyn has NEVER served in our armed forces, and why? Because he HATES BRITAIN! Jeremy Corbyn wants to take your hard earned money from you, via his so-called ‘taxation’ and use it to fund a BUNCH OF LAYABOUTS AND IMMIGRANTS!”
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7 MPs have just quit Labour and will sit as independents. -
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‘We felt our careers were being negatively influenced by the Labour party’s untimely rediscovery of socialism and principles so we’re fucking off as publically as possible in order to damage the party. But it’s not that we’re a useless gang of hysterical centrist tits, crying because we can’t get our way, oh no, it’s all about our deeply held values - whatever they may be.’
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So Labour self-destructing before the Tories. Fucking yay. -
The only deeply held values pricks like that have is to ensure their flexibility in the face of capital on any subject that they should actually have a deeply held value on.Gamertag: gremill -
Fucking hell, have they actually heard themselves?
Cunts should call a byelection so Parliament can be shot of them, and we can get some actual Labour MPs in. -
They were always causing drama and sabotaging things anyway. Only now they’re doing it from outside rather than within.
Honestly, ‘the Independant Group’ they sound like a shit PR firm. -
I personally don't see why they aren't following the Corbyn model of staying in the party and causing a load of problems. Corbyn and McD stayed in a party that invaded foreign countries at the behest of American overlords who were doing so to generate private profit for themselves. And they just spoke out about it at every opportunity. And now they run the show.
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"We're clear that there needs to be an alternative“
A new dismal vision for Britain, a vast empty wasteland of nothingness. The politics of politics has failed, it’s time for a change. A radical shift towards being in no way radical. The time is now. Or at least, sometime in the near future. -
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Send messageI listened to the statemengs they have and it just left me feeling so conflicted.
I need to go and read up on whatever got published at the weekend, the descriptions of behaviour in the Labour leadership were wild, even the known and possibly contentious stiff like antisemitism. Okay contentious is a crap word but you know what I mean.
This feels like a conservative wet dream to me though. FeelsBadMan.
Am deffo gonna check out what they do from here at least."Let me tell you, when yung Rouj had his Senna and Mansell Scalextric, Frank was the goddamn Professor X of F1." -
Maybe if it's about deselection threats. But then why not just say that? "Just doing the job we've been elected to do is met with continual threats of deselection by the fringe that has taken over the party" etc
It's quite hard to see what their motivation is really. A lot of it is the same old stuff. "Corbyn is a threat to national security." Why? Explain why. Show your working if you want the marks. -
Despite this, the Tories are even more fucked anyway. Both parties are made up of these different groups and the power balance has shifted in each away from one towards the others. The ERG has basically done this already, but are still operating within the Tory party, and their numbers are much greater. And they've got Farage and his new party to worry about as well.
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Hearing the bullshit about these clowns is annoying me.
Suddenly Chukka isn’t some empty careerist cunt who’s spent two years endlessly whining and whinging and destabilising his party, but a modern day martyr fighting the good fight against the tyranny within Labour and Mike Gapes isn’t a fat, bloated war-mongering bastard but a potential political high flyer whose inevitable rise to high office was only held back by Corbyn and his cronies. -
Heh, quite liked this from Jonathon Ashworth:
Sit as independents, vote as independents, fight elections as independents and then independently help the Tories stay in power. -
"And with any luck we'll figure out what that is at some point."LarryDavid wrote:"We're clear that there needs to be an alternative“ -
I don't want to get into the business of defending him (because he's a bullshitting bullshitter) but 'careerist' is a bit wide of the mark for someone who has intentionally quit the only organisation that can secure his career and continually put himself at risk of deselection. I think it's more narcissism with Umunna. The careerist move in a Corbyn-led labour is to shut up and bide your time (see Dan Jarvis who built up a nice little media profile for himself when it looked like the PLP were going to oust Beardo, then went quiet after Corbs survived). None of these lot can be described as careerist for doing this.LarryDavid wrote:Hearing the bullshit about these clowns is annoying me. Suddenly Chukka isn’t some empty careerist cunt who’s spent two years endlessly whining and whinging and destabilising his party, but a modern day martyr fighting the good fight against the tyranny within Labour and Mike Gapes isn’t a fat, bloated war-mongering bastard but a potential political high flyer whose inevitable rise to high office was only held back by Corbyn and his cronies.
Also Corbyn whined and whinged for way more than 2 years.
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