Mclaren. Redbull wouldn't take him.

GooberTheHat wrote:

(did he get drs on the final straight to?)

Yes.

Sebastian Vettel: Ferrari driver says Mercedes' success is boring https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/48093928

I'm sure it wouldn't be boring if Ferrari were ahead like Red Bull were for much of the time when he was with them.

Bob wrote:

Lol. It's been less boring since Ferrari almost got their act together the last couple of years. What is boring is that the big three have stopped the mid-field from ever getting a result.

We just need Honda and Renault to improve their engines (drastically). It doesnt help when drivers are still going slowly. Bottas got told by his team to slow down yesterday, thats not what you want to hear as a fan.

I think that's tyre related though.

The tyres are the worst.. there's not much wrong with the either Honda or Renault engine when they're in the back of a Red Bull.

It's the tyres that where the reason Bottas was told to slow down iirc and they've absolutely ruined the pitstops.. there's never any chance of pushing hard and coming out on top .. or the over cut.. it's under cut and that always comes out on top of the pitstop battles.

Dinostar77 wrote:

I do wonder where Vettel will go if he gets his arse kicked by LeClerc this season. I can only see him going to RedBull next or the season after if Verstappen moves on (to Mercedes if hamilton retires).

Assuming Vettel doesn't get his arse kicked by Leclerc and fades away...I wonder if in a couple of seasons they might engineer a swap with Lewis/Seb...so Hammo at Ferrari and Seb at Merc.

Yeah...the thought has been rattling around in my head from well before this season, but the way Leclerc has started suggests Vettel might not be their number 1 by the time Lewis might be looking to move. And would Hammo then fancy going against a settled in Leclerc?

Bob wrote:

I think that's tyre related though. The tyres are the worst.. there's not much wrong with the either Honda or Renault engine when they're in the back of a Red Bull. It's the tyres that where the reason Bottas was told to slow down iirc and they've absolutely ruined the pitstops.. there's never any chance of pushing hard and coming out on top .. or the over cut.. it's under cut and that always comes out on top of the pitstop battles.

Pirelli can make tyres that can last an entire race and allow the drivers to drive flat out. They do that in superbikes. Just mandate x number of pitstops per race and having to run the other compound, i dont see the problem. This tip toe shit around the circuit is rubbish.

Bob wrote:

Dinostar77 wrote:

Bob wrote:

I think that's tyre related though. The tyres are the worst.. there's not much wrong with the either Honda or Renault engine when they're in the back of a Red Bull. It's the tyres that where the reason Bottas was told to slow down iirc and they've absolutely ruined the pitstops.. there's never any chance of pushing hard and coming out on top .. or the over cut.. it's under cut and that always comes out on top of the pitstop battles.

Pirelli can make tyres that can last an entire race and allow the drivers to drive flat out. They do that in superbikes. Just mandate x number of pitstops per race and having to run the other compound, i dont see the problem. This tip toe shit around the circuit is rubbish.

Pirelli are making the tyres Bernie asked them to make.. I don't understand why the yanks aren't changing it up.. lets get a tyre war going!

I thought they looked at this and invited Bridgestone and Hankook to tender. Pirelli threw a fit and it all died down.

I thought Bernie decided a tire war wasn't in anyones interest?

A tyre war would solve it because no one would ask for fake degredation any more.

We had one race where the tyres degraded faster than was thought and it made for an exciting race and Bernie asked for it to be a thing.. it wasn't one of his better ideas (see also sprinklers, medals etc.).

Lol liberty media's plan for a Q4 in qually rejected by the teams. Good. There's nothing wrong with qually. LB wanted Q4 so they could add another TV break into the schedule. Muppets.

Yeah google confirms 2021 I think.

OK. here's a wild prediction. Vettel gets beaten by Leclerc comfortably over the season, and he retires. Ferrari still want an experienced driver since Giovinnazi is prob next in line and not good enough, Renault won't release Danny Ric....so Ferrari bring back Fernando!

Yeah, i think reading that set the wheels in motion!
Obviously don't really expect it to happen, and I'm not even particularly an Alonso fan, I'd just really like to see him in a proper competitive car against Hammo, something I don't think we ever really got other than their season together at Mclaren.

If a seat opened up at Ferrari or Mercedes (with Vettel or hamo leaving) I'd expect verstappen to be the no1 target for that seat.

Alonso would only return to McLaren if they were at the level of a Ferrari or Mercedes in performance. That said I'd like to see him in FormulaE or BTCC.