hunk wrote:

Trump: This is what you voted for. Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

And now the US have backed out of the UN human rights council...

Well.. At least the admin is honest... Couldn't exactly stay in there while they were actively tearing apart families, and employing border patrol officials who crack jokes about the whole thing...

Also, interesting point from the missus...

Part of me still thinks that he'll be impeached by the middle of next year...
He pisses too many intelligent people off.

But she thinks he courts a lot of popularity with shit like this, and could get a second term. Do you think that's likely?

edit - Indeed... Her point is backed up by numbuzzz...
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/18/gateway-pundit/headline-says-trump-tied-obama-same-point-presiden/

The thing is Congress should be Trump's checks and balances. As long as Congress backs Trump he's effectively sanctioned and his position in the white house safeguarded. He can do as he pleases as long as he scratches Congress' back. In the long run.

The Mueller investigation could get Trump impeached or.....Congress dismisses the outcome as partisan and keeps backing Trump till the end of the term. With the way things are now it could go either way as checks and balances aren't working as intended. The Republicans control all bases and balance in the system has gone lop-sided.

Unless people start rioting in the streets with firearms. Congress might be rattled by the uproar and decide to eventually ditch Trump. Then again perhaps they might not....We don't know what their long term agenda is.

It effectively boils down to what kind of society Congress leans to. The old one with Dems and Repubulicans alternating at the helm depending on the popular vote. Or they might lean to a more authoritarian right wing oligarchic model similar to the Russians. We already know what Trump, Bannon/Mercer et al prefer. The question is will Congress play along and give the okay nod?

Will of the people? You can buy that with fake news and targeted propaganda. If you're willing to pay up and invest in the future that is...

Meanwhile liberal EU democracy is under attack from the east and west by Putin and Trump/Bannon respectively. Whenever a far right leader rises, either Bannon or Putin seems to be advising/sponsoring in the background. UK (Brexit), France (Le Penn), Hungary (Orban), Austria, Italy, Poland; the spectre of Putin/Bannon always looms.
The goal seems to be a new right wing order, politically breaking up liberal Europe and reset the situation back to what, the early 1900's?  Every nation state for themselves. It's a period that gave us ww1 and ww2 from similar minded regimes. Do we really want to go back there?

A new 21st century cold war seems to be emerging but this time it's not communism as the main antagonist. This time the enemy comes from within; the dark nationalist and far right urges hidden deep within the underbelly of our societies. And certain masterminds like Bannon and Putin are more than willing to fan the flames. Everything for the new right world order.

I'm kinda looking at it from the point of view that as brazen as this admin is , they are not yet at the point where they can completely dismiss public reaction (not that they don't try) but my hope isn't that this admin will improve - they will only worsen - but that when we get to the end of the four years there is a chance that it might not be as simple as republican v democrat and even some republicans have seen how dangerous trump and his group truly are and as such a better chance of being voted out.

I'd also agree with Comey when he thinks it might be better if it's the electorate who remove trump rather than congress.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/21/james-comey-yes-the-rule-of-law-is-in-danger-in-america?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

JMW wrote:

It’s surely not still illegal just to kill him is it?

Would not be surprised if bannons has a dream of that to further galvanize the horrid right resurgence going on. Trump as martyr is possibly worse than a second term

First off: Zara? Fuck outta here you have all the bucks.

I really don't buy Zara do u

minimum of 12 suicides too.

While not on the same level as the yanks or Aussies, Ireland has the rep of letting people in (well, 10% of applicants) but then not really letting them be part of the country

http://www.thejournal.ie/direct-provision-1759400-Nov2014/

Does any country have a 'good record of dealing with refugees? I can understand how complicated it can be.

Aye, Aussies have a bad rep sheet with refugees. Detention island being the worst deterrent policy ever. They must really fear the third world surrounding and encroaching their island.

Comey has more faith in the ballot box than I do. If Congress decides to dismiss a damning outcome of the Meuller investigation and the public accepts this decision as valid... Trump will be fully normalised. Which means he'll probably be able to repeat the same 2016 election campaign tactics for 2020 (hello neo Cambridge Analytica) and he'll probably be re-elected because the strategy just works. It will be game over Dems. Game over.

Don't know too much about Melania but I suspect she really, really dislikes her husband. That Zara dress was probably aimed at the tabloids haunting her every move every minute of the day. I might be wrong though as I'm not familiar with the woman.

They’ve hardly been seen in public together for a lot longer than that.

If piss orgies in Moscow and the Stormy scandal didn't open her eyes I doubt our banter will.

So many of these will never be reunited.

This is just wrong on so many levels.

Vela wrote:

So many of these will never be reunited. This is just wrong on so many levels.

Poor Families, makes me feel ill thinking about it. World is a fucked up place.