Brexit: Boris' Big Belgian Bangers
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The can has been kicked again.
All she has committed to is a vote in the second week back, the 21st is the day the third week commences. -
He has called the motion btw.
It's a bit half baked. It's very difficult, he clearly wants to wait for her deal to be rejected before calling a GE, which is sensible as many MPs will think that is the appropriate order of things. That doesnt account for May's can kicking though. -
Yeah Corbs wants to get to second ref position (presumably inevitable) having been seen to exhaust all other options first. May wants to take as long as poss to run the clock down. We’ll probably still be fucking about with days left, then end up with a second ref in June.
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monkey wrote:Yeah Corbs wants to get to second ref position (presumably inevitable) having been seen to exhaust all other options first. May wants to take as long as poss to run the clock down. We’ll probably still be fucking about with days left, then end up with a second ref in June.
Except he’s decided to call no confidence in May rather than the government which, should he win, wouldn’t lead to a GE which is Labour’s stated objective. This is just him trying to look like he’s doing something instead of being a useless twat. -
I think he is trying to bully May into holding the vote on the deal.
Trouble is she is more likely to survive this motion than she would post deal vote so she won't move it.
Places seem to be reporting her as saying the vote will he on the 14th. That isn't what she said. She said the week of the 14th.
That could and probably will be be Friday 18th. Leaving MPs shit scared of no deal forced to back her.
He should have called for a motion to force the vote this week. -
I don't have confidence in this no confidence vote of confidence.
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regmcfly wrote:I don't have confidence in this no confidence vote of confidence.
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Corbyn is a woeful fuck that doesn't know what to do as he actually wants Brexit but is a spineless cunt. He's a fucking disgrace of a socialist."Plus he wore shorts like a total cunt" - Bob
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A 2nd referendum is probably the only way to end the Brexit deadlock. Yeah, it's risky as the outcome might deepen the rifts within the population/ Westminster between remain and leave but it's the only logical choice. Besides, it's only a matter of time before the general public figures out they've been duped and lured into Brexit under false pretences; do the Tories really want to carry the burden of blame as the party that allowed this to happen? Best to come clean now May, before you push the country off the cliff.
The several Leave factions (Brexiteer hard no deal, May's soft deal and Corbyn's socialist utopia) should stop dreaming and wake the fuck up. This is the actual price of Brexit. There won't be a better deal as this is as good as it gets. As a EUboard member the UK should know better, they actively had a hand in laying down the ground rules themselves. The EU really isn't going to cut the UK some slack, if they do it would spell the end of the EU. Thus, May's deal is likely the best Leave can get.
Meanwhile, the real reasons people voted Leave are left unaddressed. People voted leave due to increasing socioeconomic insecurities caused by years of dysfunctional governmental policies. Austerity, migration, poverty, these all need to be reviewed and re-assessed as to why the Brexit vote happened. It's a painful introspection nobody wants to initiate as it's easier blaming the EU, Johnny migrant or even the US and Russia for the mess that is at Brexit's core. Sooner or later, the UK won't have a choice as it will be neck deep in economic recession.Steam: Ruffnekk
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Unlikely wrote:Iain Duncan Smith please go die in a well.
I don't even need context, that works at any time. -
We’re doing our yearly sleaze raffle today and someone in the department has won a crying unicorn candle which almost feels a bit too on-the-nose as a Brexit metaphor right now.
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Have some context anyway, Dante.
The Guardian wrote:On Sky’s All Out Politics, Iain Duncan Smith, the Conservative Brexiter and former party leader, was asked about the Guy Verhofstadt tweet. (See 11.55am.) When it was put to him that EU figures like Verhofstadt thought the UK was engaged in an act of self harm, he replied:
I think they are actually reacting in worry now. The truth is, you cannot have a plan A if you don’t have a plan B. Negotiation always requires that the other side believe that you will do something if this fails. And they haven’t believed that.
What they need to understand is that the UK has a plan to leave should they not agree a deal.
He also claimed that in the German Chancellery people have war-gamed Brexit, “and they have come to the conclusion that the UK is almost certain to sign the agreement because they didn’t think they [the UK] were serious about having any plans for leaving without a deal.” Duncan Smith said, in the last week, the Germans had begun to change their assessment.
They’ve begun to realise this may well be an option. That’s why Guy Verhofstadt is making such a fuss about it - because he didn’t believe it, and now he does.
Yoss, please make the website's contents easier to steal. That was a faff. -
We’re far too busy being transfixed by the sleaze raffle draw right now, I’m afraid.
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The stupid thing is that all their 'no deal' planning is predicated on having some sort of deal.
'mini-deals' I think they are calling it, or a managed "no deal" which is still a deal.
Actual no deal would be insanity.
Assuming there would be a deal and calling it no deal is insanity.
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WorKid wrote:The stupid thing is that all their 'no deal' planning is predicated on having some sort of deal. 'mini-deals' I think they are calling it, or a managed "no deal" which is still a deal. Actual no deal would be insanity. Assuming there would be a deal and calling it no deal is insanity. Ah fuck it's all insanity.
"Failing to plan is planning to fail".
So really, they know what they're doing after all!"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." ― Terry Pratchett -
There was a slightly older harry potter ranting on sky news about wanting a no deal exit. But with side deals, obviously.
You guys are fucked.SFV - reddave360 -
But Tories aside, I like your country...
(And thanks for dragging the rest of us in Ireland down as well)SFV - reddave360 -
Why break the habit of a lifetime?
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"A Unicorn that needs to be slaughtered"RedDave2 wrote:There was a slightly older harry potter ranting on sky news about wanting a no deal exit. But with side deals, obviously. You guys are fucked.
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Truss wants daily Cobra meetings to plan for no deal.
You know those meetings that normally only happen for disastrous events like terrorist attacks, those but daily.
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There should definitely be a second referendum in shade of a no deal Brexit.
Quite sure there's a good number of leave voters who wouldn't have expected this state of affairs."I didn't get it. BUUUUUUUUUUUT, you fucking do your thing." - Roujin
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LivDiv wrote:Truss wants daily Cobra meetings to plan for no deal.
You know those meetings that normally only happen for disastrous events like terrorist attacks, those but daily.
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LivDiv wrote:Truss wants daily Cobra meetings to plan for no deal.
You know those meetings that normally only happen for disastrous events like terrorist attacks, those but daily.
To be fair, they are just briefings, that are conducted in response to issues of significant national importance.
And COBRA stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A, rather than some super duper disaster response committee. -
I like how it’s got a super cool name that sounds like it’s out of James Bond but then Michael Gove and Liz Truss are there.
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